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Re: There's no contradiction here...Accrued seasons is a part...

September 05, 2017 06:27PM
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I don't know if there is any fault here. But I do know that if he doesn't play this year his contract rolls over to the next year-meaning he loses one more year before he can be a free agent. I think the Rams hold the cards in this one.

Well no actually it doesn't work like that since he only needs one more accrued year to be an FA. So he just reports next year and that becomes his 4th accrued year, and he's an FA. He wasn't going to become a FA after this year anyway. So he's just in the same boat either way.

BUT it's not going to get to that. cool smiley

He will be signed to an extension this year.

That's what the signs look like.

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I originally thought that he just needed one more year to become a FA too but now I believe his contract is tolled.

Here is what the CBA says under APPENDIX A, NFL PLAYER CONTRACT, Paragraph 16:

16. EXTENSION. Unless this contract specifically provides otherwise, if Player becomes a member of the Armed Forces of the United States or any other country, or retires from professional football as an active player, or otherwise fails or refuses to perform his services under this contract, then this contract will be tolled between the date of Player’s induction into the Armed Forces, or his retirement, or his failure or refusal to perform, and the later date of his return to professional football. During the period this contract is tolled, Player will not be entitled to any compensation or benefits. On Player’s return to professional football, the term of this contract will be extended for a period of time equal to the number of seasons (to the nearest multiple of one) remaining
at the time the contract was tolled.
The right of renewal, if any, contained in this contract will remain in effect until the end of any such extended term.


The way I read this is, if he doesn't play at all this year, he owes the Rams 2 more seasons. Even if he plays next year and has 4 accrued seasons, he would still owe them another season.

I can't make that out.

I don't know if you're right or not.

All I know is what is said about accrued seasons in terms of this year when it comes to Donald:

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August 7, 2017. Tomorrow, an off day for the Rams, is the deadline for players under contract to report in order to earn an accrued season for free agency. So, Aaron Donald will technically lose an accrued season. But it isn’t a big deal for him. Players need four accrued seasons to be unrestricted free agents. Donald entered this year with three and already had his fifth-year option picked up. He would basically have to also hold out past that deadline next year, too, for it to really affect him.

Alden Gonzalez, ESPN Staff Writer: [www.espn.com]


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Here are the requirements to be a Free Agent in the CBA:

“Unrestricted Free Agent” means a Veteran with four or more Accrued Seasons,
who has completed performance of his Player Contract, and who is no longer subject to
any exclusive negotiating rights, Right of First Refusal, or Draft Choice Compensation in
favor of his Prior Club.


Notice the bolded....

You have to have 4 accrued seasons AND have completed your obligations to the team.

Except when the issue is the contract itself, right?

And the team is not obligated to discount a season. The way I understand that, the team can elect to do that--it is not automatically obligated by the league to do it.

Therefore any player in his right mind makes sure the team waives that possibility before signing.

This goes back to the Rams saying they would respect AD's decision to hold out. I take that as meaning they will not make the hold out itself an issue. No threats, no reprimands, no holding it against him. They said that quite openly and have said or done nothing to rescind that, or alter it, or to back down from it.


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SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Donald holdout: Los Angeles Rams need to PAY this man/Schein

RamBill1026September 05, 2017 01:57PM

  Re: Donald holdout: Los Angeles Rams need to PAY this man/Schein

RamsFanSinceLA413September 05, 2017 02:20PM

  Re: Donald holdout: Los Angeles Rams need to PAY this man/Schein

Rampage2K-267September 05, 2017 02:36PM

  Schein is a tool

Blue and Gold384September 05, 2017 02:40PM

  Re: Schein is a tool

bigjimram21316September 05, 2017 03:01PM

  @ Blue and Gold

ferragamo79214September 05, 2017 03:40PM

  I agree

Blue and Gold259September 05, 2017 03:43PM

  Frustrating

Old Goat464September 05, 2017 02:42PM

  Re: Frustrating

RamsFanSinceLA245September 05, 2017 02:48PM

  Yo, Mrs Schein, Neveille Chamberlain's your husband yes?

canuckramsfans226September 05, 2017 02:54PM

  So does AD lose money sunday?....i dont get it.

wv ram265September 05, 2017 02:56PM

  he won't lose money

zn477September 05, 2017 03:10PM

  Re: he won't lose money

waterfield296September 05, 2017 04:50PM

  Re: he won't lose money

zn228September 05, 2017 04:58PM

  Re: I think this is not correct...

dzrams230September 05, 2017 05:57PM

  Re: I think this is not correct...

zn243September 05, 2017 06:03PM

  Re: There's no contradiction here...Accrued seasons is a part...

dzrams361September 05, 2017 06:11PM

  Re: There's no contradiction here...Accrued seasons is a part...

zn228September 05, 2017 06:27PM

  Re: There's no contradiction here...Accrued seasons is a part...

dzrams267September 05, 2017 08:45PM

  Re: There's no contradiction here...Accrued seasons is a part...

zn211September 06, 2017 04:16AM

  another "not" typo

zn204September 06, 2017 07:04AM

  Re: That’s also not correct.

dzrams231September 06, 2017 07:29AM

  that doesn't say that

zn368September 06, 2017 08:29AM

  Re: that doesn't say that

dzrams251September 06, 2017 09:12AM

  Re: don't do that

Anonymous User191September 06, 2017 09:28AM

  Re: that doesn't say that

RounderRick173September 06, 2017 09:31AM

  That is just so fundamentally wrong minded.

RockRam494September 06, 2017 02:44AM

  IMO, this is the best post on this topic, ever. nm.

Saguaro188September 06, 2017 03:45AM

  Re: IMO, this is the best post on this topic, ever. nm.

RounderRick178September 06, 2017 04:57AM

  yet

zn192September 06, 2017 04:25AM

  Great post Rock

RamsFanSinceLA177September 06, 2017 08:20AM

  Re: That is just so fundamentally wrong minded.

Rams43179September 06, 2017 08:28AM

  I blame him....

JamesJM249September 05, 2017 03:17PM

  Totally agree Jimmy

RamUK223September 05, 2017 04:06PM

  bela fleck

wv ram354September 06, 2017 05:07AM

  Somehow proving you wrong lost it's luster...

JamesJM197September 06, 2017 05:54AM

  i blame you

wv ram219September 06, 2017 06:32AM

  Yup, we disagree...

JamesJM218September 06, 2017 06:39AM

  Pretty sure he'll be insured up to the hilt

RamUK182September 06, 2017 06:41AM

  Re: Pretty sure he'll be insured up to the hilt

zn294September 06, 2017 07:11AM

  Re: He has had one since college...

laram205September 06, 2017 07:16AM

  Re: He has had one since college...

zn197September 06, 2017 08:43AM

  That takes me back! Saw the Flecktones in 2000

ArizonaRamFan163September 06, 2017 10:03AM

  He's outplayed his contract

reggae267September 05, 2017 03:05PM

  Re: He's outplayed his contract

RamUK248September 05, 2017 04:09PM

  AND the Rams should let him sit out the season

Rams_81238September 05, 2017 05:05PM

  Outplaying a contract is an oxymoron.

RockRam220September 06, 2017 02:56AM

  Re: Sign him, but if he under performs his contract .....

hammer283September 06, 2017 05:11AM

  the Rams have said he deserves to be paid

zn178September 06, 2017 08:45AM

  Re: the Rams have said he deserves to be paid

Rams43202September 06, 2017 08:52AM

  You are always so patient

Rams_81287September 06, 2017 12:58PM