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July 09, 2017 06:21PM
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LesBaker
There are a couple of guys that you'd want to keep. And a small list of replaceable players.

That's how I see that list.

AO has turned out to be a really good player and they have to keep him.

Let;s assume that Goff is worth a 2nd contract. By 2019 that;s another 20 M.

Let;'s say Donald already has 20 M.

Well as a rule teams spend around 50-55% of their cap on something like 8-10 players.

With 40 M dedicated to Goff and Donald in 2019, By 2019 the cap would be around 180 M. (Over the cap dot com figures at 190 M but let's stay with the more conservative number.)

50-55% of 180 M is 90-99 M.

That would leave 50-59 M. The rest of your big contracts are in the 6 M - 11 M range. Average: 8.5

Out of 50-55 M, with that average you can sign 6-7 players though 7 would be pushing it to more like 55.3%. Add in Goff and Donald that looks like 8-9 players, well within the normal range you find throughout the league.

Just ask, which 6-7 other players would you want then?

Here are some of their big cap guys now--they won't all be here in 2019: Tru, Tavon, Barron, Brockers, Quinn, Whitworth, Ogletlree, Woods.

Some of those guys won't be here in 2 years. As it stands, only 6 of them are under contract through 2019, and they represent 60 M dollars against the 2019 cap.

THEN there's this question. What is Donald worth as a player, not in terms of money but in terms of his value to the defense? I say a rare elite DT---elite DTs being one of the rarest types in football---is worth any 2 other10-M-each type defenders you can keep or sign.

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Point taken, zn.

But let's don't forget that we need to extend some other starters that you didn't mention, or replace them via FA (expensive) or the draft (inexpensive but not 100% effective).

Namely:

Webster (or Gaines, depending)
Joyner
Alexander
NRC

Just to name a few. That's 4 starters on D right there. And, as such, they certainly won't be cheap if they have quality starts this year.

My point? That our need for cap dollars for near term extensions is expanding as fast, or faster, as the cap itself. Good drafting and good FA signings has us on a squirrel like treadmill while trying to keep our roster together.

Nice problem to have, of course. But still...

Gotta keep our wits about us re this proposed AD extension, you know?
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  I think giving Aaron Donald all the money he wants is a mistake

GreatRamNTheSky1050July 07, 2017 05:38PM

  Re: I think giving Aaron Donald all the money he wants is a mistake

zn481July 07, 2017 05:48PM

  Apples and Oranges

GreatRamNTheSky334July 08, 2017 04:25AM

  Re: Apples and Oranges

zn447July 08, 2017 04:35AM

  Re: I think giving Aaron Donald all the money he wants is a mistake

Classicalwit320July 07, 2017 06:20PM

  Re: I think giving Aaron Donald all the money he wants is a mistake

GreatRamNTheSky309July 08, 2017 04:27AM

  Re: I think giving Aaron Donald all the money he wants is a mistake

Classicalwit351July 08, 2017 05:39AM

  When you have an mvp level player

alyoshamucci478July 07, 2017 06:23PM

  Re: Why not pay him?

oldschoolramfan328July 07, 2017 06:30PM

  Why not?

RFIP455July 08, 2017 01:46AM

  Pay him and not be able to pay anybody else?

GreatRamNTheSky399July 08, 2017 04:24AM

  Paying Donald like Watt is fine. Paying Tavon like Julio is not. nm

rambleon271July 09, 2017 10:43AM

  Julio $70 mil a tad more then Tavon $40 mil....

Rampage2K-336July 09, 2017 11:12AM

  Fair, I was just using Tavon as an example of our terrible cap management:

rambleon269July 10, 2017 08:18AM

  Re: When you have an mvp level player

Rampage2K-323July 07, 2017 07:21PM

  Suppose Donald doesn't like your offer?

GreatRamNTheSky287July 08, 2017 04:29AM

  The whole point of FA and the draft is to acquire talent.

rambleon281July 10, 2017 08:21AM

  Re: Suppose Donald doesn't like your offer?

Rampage2K-371July 10, 2017 11:50AM

  Re: Suppose Donald doesn't like your offer?

Rams43315July 10, 2017 01:03PM

  Re: When you have an mvp level player

oldmanram351July 08, 2017 06:39AM

  AD is gonna get his big payday...

Rams43347July 07, 2017 09:29PM

  AD is gonna get his big payday: And -Barron-Brockers-Tree?

Anonymous User447July 08, 2017 02:59AM

  Here is a man using logic. Great Post!

GreatRamNTheSky310July 08, 2017 04:33AM

  The "butterfly effect" is a good point you raise, Florida...

Rams43346July 08, 2017 07:12AM

  Only AO is a must sign

LesBaker321July 09, 2017 02:37PM

  Re: Only AO is a must sign

Rams43338July 09, 2017 05:04PM

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zn318July 09, 2017 05:54PM

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dzrams290July 10, 2017 07:38AM

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dzrams296July 11, 2017 08:25AM

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Rams43302July 11, 2017 08:42AM

  Why would you be concerned? Donald is better than Von Miller nm

rambleon400July 10, 2017 08:22AM

  Re: Why would you be concerned? Donald is better than Von Miller nm

Rams43432July 10, 2017 01:09PM

  You don't find my blind confidence convincing??

rambleon294July 11, 2017 08:56AM

  Lets hope Donald is agreeable to that.

GreatRamNTheSky273July 08, 2017 04:30AM

  Re: Lets hope Donald is agreeable to that.

dzrams286July 08, 2017 05:07PM

  Trade a future Hall of Famer?

RamUK324July 08, 2017 04:56AM

  Re: I think giving Aaron Donald all the money he wants is a mistake

Tony Romas426July 08, 2017 05:15AM

  He's not going anywhere.

RockRam422July 08, 2017 06:49AM

  Re: He's not going anywhere.

Rams43318July 08, 2017 07:16AM

  Yea , he's not going anywhere

IowaRam299July 08, 2017 07:30AM

  Re: Yea , he's not going anywhere

zn455July 10, 2017 08:19PM

  Re: I think giving Aaron Donald all the money he wants is a mistake

reggae528July 09, 2017 02:23PM

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Rams43312July 09, 2017 05:51PM

  Re: I think giving Aaron Donald all the money he wants is a mistake

reggae273July 10, 2017 08:47AM

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Rams43302July 10, 2017 01:10PM

  what was your point exactly?

reggae275July 10, 2017 08:30PM

  Re: what was your point exactly?

Rams43285July 11, 2017 05:47AM

  Re: I think giving Aaron Donald all the money he wants is a mistake

dzrams282July 11, 2017 08:16AM