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Re: Do we know who made the draft choices? Snead or Fisher?

January 30, 2017 09:26AM
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PHDram
i think you can get a pretty good idea of the process based on 3 pieces of information.

1. the bobby wagner isiah pead situation.
2. the comments rgarding mo alexander.
3. snead is still with the rams.

1. if i recall correctly, fisher wanted bobby wagner and snead did some manuevering thinking they could pick up an extra pick and still get wagner but ended up with pead. this tells us that fisher identified players he wanted (likely based on sneads inout) and told snead to go get them.

2. similar situation here. fisher wanted mo. so much in fact they drafted him a bit earlry becasue they didnt have a fifth rounder (something like that). in fact the comments after the draft snead said that fisher suggested he did not want another boby wagner incident.

3. while the rams drafting is not as bad as some imply here, there have been some high profile misses. yet snead is still with the rams. KD is in the draft room. he knows who did what. if he thought snead was a bad evalautaor, i cant imagine KD keeping him.

overall, i suspect it was a collaborative process but ultimately the decision was fishers based on the comments regarding pead and alexnder. now i think snead has a year to prove with worth to mcvay. if not, next year mcvay and kd will search for his replacement.

1. I don;t think your #1 is correct as put. Fisher didn't say "go get THIS player." That's not how they talked about their own process and that's not what we heard reading about the process. They would have a ranked board determined in advance of the draft. As someone already said, that was usually ranked in groups--which players plural for which spot. Fisher had final say but he wasn't a scout so he listened. Snead could not have traded down in 2012 unless that was agreed upon...he didn;t have the authority to just do it.

When it got to the lower rounds it was different. Fisher himself said he didn't know which guard you take in the 5th or 6th round so he deferred more to the scouts and therefore Snead. That was still based on rankings they made before the draft.

2. There was a lot of input from coaches. Alexander was a Williams guy, and Robinson was a Boudreau guy. Part of Fisher's role was to get the players his coaches were hot on, depending on the situation.

3. All teams have misses, including the one high profile miss (Robinson). Not only, overall, was the Rams drafting better than a lot of the stanchest critics say it was, it was WAY better than the staunchest critics say it was. People wrangle over individual picks and on some that involves value judgments...for example I think if they use Tavon like they did in 2015 he's a good pick, some don't like him. That's just clashing opinions. A REAL BUST though looks like Tye Hill--he can't play at all, he's a wasted pick.

How the Fisher/Snead draft years get judged in the end, IMO, will depend on Goff.

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  Do we know who made the draft choices? Snead or Fisher?

RockRam883January 30, 2017 06:27AM

  Re: Do we know who made the draft choices? Snead or Fisher?

David Deacon468January 30, 2017 07:05AM

  Re: Do we know who made the draft choices? Snead or Fisher?

bigjimram21348January 30, 2017 07:27AM

  they may do it differently now

zn285January 30, 2017 09:33AM

  Re: they may do it differently now

bigjimram21302January 30, 2017 10:52AM

  Snead heavy influence in navigating the draft...

max476January 30, 2017 07:34AM

  Mo Alexander

PHDram532January 30, 2017 08:14AM

  Re: Snead heavy influence in navigating the draft...

Classicalwit339January 30, 2017 03:24PM

  My guess is that Fisher directed that

LesBaker305January 30, 2017 05:31PM

  It wasn't like that...it's the wrong question

zn643January 30, 2017 07:37AM

  Can't work that way on draft day.

RockRam387January 30, 2017 08:44AM

  Re: Can't work that way on draft day.

zn325January 30, 2017 09:16AM

  Agreed. It was planned and vetted.

RockRam444January 30, 2017 10:47AM

  Re: Agreed. It was planned and vetted.

zn280January 30, 2017 12:50PM

  Correct...

max280January 30, 2017 09:17AM

  I've asked this several times on the board

ferragamo79445January 30, 2017 07:39AM

  Re: I've asked this several times on the board

PHDram478January 30, 2017 08:13AM

  Re: I've asked this several times on the board

zn317January 30, 2017 09:38AM

  Re: Didn't Fisher hire another Snead to scout for him??

Rampage327January 31, 2017 05:25PM

  Here's what I think...

Rams43422January 30, 2017 07:57AM

  Sounds like the most logical answer

IowaRam466January 30, 2017 08:42AM

  Re: Do we know who made the draft choices? Snead or Fisher?

PHDram399January 30, 2017 08:11AM

  Re: Do we know who made the draft choices? Snead or Fisher?

zn452January 30, 2017 09:26AM

  Re: Do we know who made the draft choices? Snead or Fisher?

sacram315January 30, 2017 09:55AM

  Re: Do we know who made the draft choices? Snead or Fisher?

zn294January 30, 2017 10:04AM

  Re: Do we know who made the draft choices? Snead or Fisher?

sacram300January 30, 2017 11:20AM

  yes but

zn332January 30, 2017 12:59PM

  As sport fans we look to simplicity

waterfield418January 30, 2017 01:14PM

  Re: As sport fans we look to simplicity

zn286January 30, 2017 02:23PM

  Re: As sport fans we look to simplicity

waterfield283January 30, 2017 04:44PM

  No we don't

TonyHunter87436January 30, 2017 08:26AM

  Fisher had to be given a short list...

jemach474January 30, 2017 05:08PM