January 23, 2017 02:54AM
He did evaluate the top guys, GRob, Matthews, Lewan, and even Martin.

He said he broke down a lot of the tape on them and his top guy was Matthews. He wasn't all that high on Lewan though. And he said GRob was a physical freak but he could see him being a penalty machine his entire career. He also like Martin a lot, I think he called him a smaller version of Matthews as an OT.

I also remember that he had Cosell on and discussed the OTs with him and for the most part Cosell deferred to Tucker who played the position. Clearly, Tucker would not have taken GRob ahead of Matthews. And there were many other guys who said the same thing. I remember speaking with Dan Shonka in a phone conversation before the draft about Matthews and he thought Fisher would take Matthews because of the family connections and he thought it was pretty much a slam dunk.

Then I remember Fisher saying after the draft that he never had Matthews as his top guy and that he even had Martin higher. That's why they tried to trade up for Martin in the first round.

Now, who knows how it all broke down within the Rams war room. I mean, were they all in on GRob or was their a big difference of opinion between scouts and coaches? The bottom line was Fisher had final say and he got it wrong. He was ultimately responsible even if Snead and his crew pushed for GRob, which I'm guessing they did.

I also remember that before the draft there was a lot of talk from the Rams that they wanted to emulate teams that picked 2 HOFers in the first round like the Bears did with Sayers and Butkus, and the Ravens did with Ogden and Lewis. And I'm thinking that's was Snead's focus. And since GRob had the most potential to be a HOFer they were willing to take the risk on the downside. Now before anyone laughs at using GRob and HOF in same sentence, let me point out that before the draft Dan Jeremiah was asked to pick one guy from the 2014 draft that would be in the HOF in 20 years and he said GRob.

So simply put, the Rams swung for the fences and struck out. And the only lesson learned here is to ask yourself the question, should you swing for the fences with the #2 overall pick in the draft? I think the smart answer is no.



~ max ~
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  Ross Tucker: Rams made a big mistake

RFIP1781January 23, 2017 02:31AM

  I remember his podcast on the OT in 2014 draft...

max720January 23, 2017 02:54AM

  Re: I remember his podcast on the OT in 2014 draft...

Classicalwit420January 23, 2017 03:05AM

  That's fine, especially in hindsight...

max398January 23, 2017 03:12AM

  Re: That's fine, especially in hindsight...

Classicalwit380January 23, 2017 04:11AM

  Re: I remember his podcast on the OT in 2014 draft...

YOUNGBLOOD85423January 23, 2017 03:14AM

  Re: wrong and right

leafnose375January 23, 2017 03:27AM

  Carr yes

RFIP375January 23, 2017 03:51AM

  Re: wrong and right

six2stack367January 23, 2017 05:55AM

  Swinging for the fences...

RFIP443January 23, 2017 03:20AM

  Re: Swinging for the fences...

max443January 23, 2017 03:27AM

  Re: Swinging for the fences...

RFIP362January 23, 2017 03:51AM

  Re: Swinging for the fences...

max420January 23, 2017 03:59AM

  Re: Swinging for the fences...

six2stack558January 23, 2017 05:59AM

  Re: Swinging for the fences...

BobCarl346January 25, 2017 04:25AM

  Re: I remember his podcast on the OT in 2014 draft...

Glyndwr71433January 23, 2017 03:44AM

  He's a liar

no name465January 23, 2017 06:39AM

  Re: That's pretty harsh man..

laram416January 23, 2017 11:24AM

  Re: That's pretty harsh man..

no name419January 23, 2017 12:57PM

  You should show proof before you call someone a liar...

max371January 23, 2017 12:20PM

  Re: You should show proof before you call someone a liar...

no name459January 23, 2017 01:02PM

  the Robinson pick made no sense

Rams_81442January 23, 2017 11:31AM

  Maybe this is why Snead is still around.

AlbaNY_Ram362January 23, 2017 02:35PM

  Re: Tucker has really been getting after the Rams lately

Speed_Kills429January 23, 2017 03:48AM

  LOL. I was thinking that too.

max382January 23, 2017 03:52AM

  Deservedly so

Hazlet Hacksaw443January 23, 2017 05:43AM

  Re: that may be true but...

Speed_Kills623January 23, 2017 06:40AM

  me too

Hazlet Hacksaw409January 23, 2017 06:47AM

  Re: me too

RAMbler383January 23, 2017 12:30PM

  Re: me too

VANRAM361January 24, 2017 06:35PM

  Re: Hindsight is 20/20 vision......

oldschoolramfan376January 23, 2017 05:02AM

  Re: Hindsight is 20/20 vision......

Classicalwit413January 23, 2017 12:51PM

  I wanted Matthews, but in a trade down from #2

Blue and Gold352January 23, 2017 10:56AM

  Re: I wanted Matthews, but in a trade down from #2

LMU93418January 24, 2017 03:01AM

  Re: I wanted Matthews, but in a trade down from #2

sstrams475January 25, 2017 04:44AM

  Re: Ross Tucker: Rams made a big mistake

waterfield445January 23, 2017 11:01AM

  Re: Ross Tucker: Rams made a big mistake

RFIP366January 23, 2017 02:35PM

  Stlramz: Rams made lots of big mistakes. Nm

stlramz401January 23, 2017 02:22PM

  Re: Ross Tucker: Rams made a big mistake

hubestar466January 24, 2017 09:29PM

  Cosell

RFIP358January 26, 2017 01:21PM

  Re: Cosell

Classicalwit333January 29, 2017 11:16AM