October 07, 2016 05:52PM
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What we have here now is a situation where the obvious long-term starter for this team, the player they hope is their franchise QB, can't be inserted into the lineup because they've won a few games with the backup, who very likely won't even be here next year.

I don't care how you look at it, that's screwed up. And maybe it's Goff's fault, and maybe it's Fisher's fault, or his staff's fault, or maybe it's nobody's fault. But I don't think it's good.


IMO, it sucks.

That surprises me, that you think this is a bad situation.

My view is different. I just dont see any downside to this at all. I got zero qualms or problems with Goff sitting for a short time, or a long time -- as long as Case is winning with his ugly efficient style.

I just dont see this as 'wasted time' for Mr Goff. I think he's learning plenty of important things on the sidelines and meanwhile the Rams are winning.

I dont want him in there now botching snaps and tossing INTs and watching the Rams lose games. I just dont care when he plays. I trust the coaches to know when Goff gives them a better chance to win than Case.

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.... we obviously think/hope Goff's ceiling is (much) higher than CK, and therefore that the Rams' ceiling with Goff is higher than with Keenum taking the snaps. And while I agree that Goff can learn a lot on the sidelines, some of his learning can only happen on the field. So unless CK suddenly starts looking like a very good QB, and not simply a QB doing just enough to not hold the team back, I do want to see Goff in there by the start of next season for sure, preferably before (and definitely earlier if Rams starts losing under CK).

That;s true longterm, absolutely. The problem is, the majority of rookie starters at qb struggle. That's regardless who they are or who they play for. It's just borne out by the facts. With obvious exceptions, if you insert a rookie, you are saying you will live with the losses that come from that.

Now Goff could be an exception...we don;t know. And maybe delaying his first game diminishes the rookie factor. Don't know.

BUT here's the thing about "news" about Goff."

The same time some reporters are reporting he's ready, some are reporting he's not quite ready yet:

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Michael Silver

[www.nfl.com]

While Fisher and his assistants would like to see Goff reduce the amount of interceptions he throws against the scout team, they’re convinced that if thrown into the fray immediately, he has the physical skill, instincts and intelligence to thrive. That said, they recognize that he is only 21, and that many successful quarterbacks — including Palmer, now 36 — benefitted by observing and learning in the early part of their careers.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Right out of Fishers mouth: Goff IS READY

RFIP2136October 06, 2016 11:56AM

  Re: Right out of Fishers mouth: Goff IS READY

CraigMatson742October 06, 2016 12:05PM

  Well I'll tell yah...........

GreatRamNTheSky736October 06, 2016 12:11PM

  Re: Well I'll tell yah...........

bigjimram21648October 06, 2016 12:20PM

  Re: Well I'll tell yah...........

EastBayRam553October 06, 2016 12:22PM

  Re: Well I'll tell yah...........

bigjimram21631October 06, 2016 12:25PM

  Yeah but

RFIP562October 06, 2016 12:58PM

  Re: I want the team to be the best it can be

Speed_Kills496October 06, 2016 12:59PM

  Re: Well I'll tell yah...........

BeachBoy426October 06, 2016 02:29PM

  Why would he crack under the weight?

LesBaker415October 06, 2016 01:17PM

  Re: Well I'll tell yah...........

SoCalRAMatic414October 06, 2016 12:55PM

  Re: Well I'll tell yah...........

21Dog386October 06, 2016 01:35PM

  Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

RockRam471October 06, 2016 12:28PM

  Re: agreed

Speed_Kills513October 06, 2016 12:33PM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

dzrams431October 06, 2016 12:36PM

  Re: ok fair enough

Speed_Kills422October 06, 2016 12:44PM

  Re: ok fair enough

dzrams419October 06, 2016 01:57PM

  you are underselling him

zn496October 06, 2016 03:29PM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

zn470October 06, 2016 01:22PM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

dzrams517October 06, 2016 02:21PM

  Re: good post...makes sense nm

Speed_Kills419October 06, 2016 02:50PM

  Yep. +1. nm

Saguaro455October 06, 2016 03:00PM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

zn399October 06, 2016 03:25PM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

dzrams387October 06, 2016 10:31PM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

zn431October 07, 2016 06:49AM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

Rams43421October 07, 2016 07:00AM

  I'm not sure you can ever call

RamUK422October 07, 2016 08:48AM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

dzrams508October 07, 2016 11:07AM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

zn279October 07, 2016 11:24AM

  If Goff "is ready" then he should play, end of story.

rambleon353October 06, 2016 01:41PM

  Re: To your point

RamsFanSinceLA428October 06, 2016 02:24PM

  If Goff can play better there is your reason

LesBaker435October 06, 2016 01:32PM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

bigjimram21525October 06, 2016 03:04PM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

dodgerram489October 07, 2016 12:03AM

  Re: Case should play until there's a reason to replace him

Rams43396October 07, 2016 06:05AM

  Clayton asked questions like he already knew the answers...

max510October 06, 2016 01:25PM

  Would you be OK if that happened?

LesBaker519October 06, 2016 01:31PM

  Yes and No

rambleon422October 06, 2016 01:45PM

  I'll take the wins because nothing is given

LesBaker379October 06, 2016 01:53PM

  Yes

Old Goat485October 06, 2016 01:51PM

  Yes and no

LesBaker471October 06, 2016 01:58PM

  Re: Yes

stlramz377October 06, 2016 10:05PM

  Hard not to be..

max374October 06, 2016 04:00PM

  Yep I thought of you immediately

RFIP460October 06, 2016 03:05PM

  Fishers mouth: Goff IS READY.. Where is the Link for this?

Anonymous User714October 06, 2016 03:31PM

  He did not say he is ready he said his time is coming

LesBaker608October 07, 2016 02:32AM

  That's totally wrong. Here are EXACT quotes.

max450October 07, 2016 03:08AM

  I got the two switched up my mistake

LesBaker368October 07, 2016 03:16AM

  He said "he's close" and "getting there" not "he's ready"

LesBaker401October 07, 2016 03:55AM

  Ah, thats your problem. Thats an old clip.

max474October 07, 2016 04:31AM

  Where is a link to yesterdays.....thanks NM

LesBaker353October 07, 2016 05:54AM

  Re: Where is a link to yesterdays.....thanks NM

max474October 07, 2016 08:08AM

  No I don't I'll try to dig it up

LesBaker262October 07, 2016 08:11AM

  Re: No I don't I'll try to dig it up

max550October 07, 2016 08:31AM

  By the way I don't think it'll take two losses

LesBaker275October 07, 2016 08:41AM

  Now you're making good sense...

max401October 07, 2016 08:47AM

  And we could both be wrong LOL

LesBaker513October 07, 2016 11:41AM

  And yet another great post by Les!

max538October 07, 2016 11:46AM

  This is the nutcracker situation that I dreaded.

Saguaro440October 07, 2016 05:35AM

  Re: This is the nutcracker situation that I dreaded.

Rams43384October 07, 2016 06:26AM

  I would look at it "nice situation" or "win-win"...

Saguaro381October 07, 2016 06:43AM

  Re: This is the nutcracker situation that I dreaded.

zn397October 07, 2016 06:31AM

  Lets all hope I'm wrong...

JamesJM349October 07, 2016 06:53AM

  the QB bar was set pretty low last night nm

21Dog357October 07, 2016 07:04AM

  Yeah, James, what you said. nm

Saguaro347October 07, 2016 07:26AM

  Re: Lets all hope I'm wrong...

zn521October 07, 2016 07:53AM

  I say forget the 'lose 2-3 games in a row' stuff, and...

RAMbler472October 07, 2016 07:10AM

  Oh you guys... This is a GOOD problem!

merlin419October 07, 2016 08:00AM

  my only worry is Goff

max509October 07, 2016 08:22AM

  Wailing and gnashing teeth? It doesn't rise to that level.

Saguaro542October 07, 2016 09:04AM

  Re: Wailing and gnashing teeth? It doesn't rise to that level.

Rams43290October 07, 2016 09:35AM

  Well, it was 4 turnovers.

ArizonaRamFan335October 07, 2016 11:00AM

  Oh I don't disagree, but there's just one problem...

merlin462October 07, 2016 08:10PM

  I look it as being prepared....

JamesJM399October 07, 2016 09:46AM

  Re: I look it as being prepared....

zn554October 07, 2016 10:34AM

  Then you're wrong.

JamesJM473October 07, 2016 10:35AM

  if you say so

zn506October 07, 2016 10:37AM

  Lemmee ask you a quick question...

JamesJM394October 07, 2016 10:41AM

  Re: Lemmee ask you a quick question...

zn489October 07, 2016 10:49AM

  Well, not sure what you're point is...

JamesJM429October 07, 2016 10:59AM

  Re: Well, not sure what you're point is...

zn462October 07, 2016 11:07AM

  Well, that sounds more like what I mentioned in my original reply to Merlin..

JamesJM615October 07, 2016 11:15AM

  Re: Well, that sounds more like what I mentioned in my original reply to Merlin..

zn425October 07, 2016 11:29AM

  I think it's really simple James

merlin487October 07, 2016 08:39PM

  Re: I think it's really simple James

zn375October 07, 2016 08:47PM

  Re: Oh you guys... This is a GOOD problem!

zn405October 07, 2016 05:12PM

  I dont have an issue with Goff sitting

wv ram571October 07, 2016 11:34AM

  Goff should not be sitting...

JamesJM387October 07, 2016 11:42AM

  Well there is a perfect guy for the last part and he is available

LesBaker515October 07, 2016 11:48AM

  I'm with you - with one caveat...

Suh-weet!482October 07, 2016 05:42PM

  Re: I'm with you - with one caveat...

zn404October 07, 2016 05:52PM