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Re: Doesn't matter what GW wants to do.

October 04, 2016 06:46AM
That wasn't my focus. It was solely about what I think they need to do in order to become elite. Just my opinion of that, as a fan like the rest of youze guys. Obviously, if the Rams haven't gone in the direction I think they should, the coaches see things differently. I assume that before hand. If I agreed with their direction, I wouldn't bother being critical -- and it's obviously not too critical, as I said they're close, potentially, to elite status.

As for corner. You and I disagree. I think they're in very good shape there, with Gaines and Tru, though they can always get stronger at backup. IMO, they don't have a true, starting caliber free safety right now. Davis is a good backup, and someone the Rams need. But he's not really a starter, much less a superior starter.

Just my take. Again, I assumed the Rams don't agree with that take before I made it. No need for the comment if we were in agreement, etc.

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PHDram
this idea of lacking a "true center-fielder" has been spun around this board for 3 years now...if GW wanted that type of player hed go get one...but instead you keep seeing him bring in hard hitting SS types. im sure if he can find a guy with both qualities that would be fine, but its pretty clear to me at least that he wants his safeties to be first and foremost hitters.

another lb...again do you think its an accident that we have like 6 safety and 4 lbs? its not that the rams HAVE to play their "safety" at "lb" GW WANTS to play them there. and quite frankly i think you are seeing more and more teams adopt a similar approach. the days of 250+ lbs are waning (unless they can run of course)

another de? ok i guess...hayes is probably a step down from long but personally i think this team is pretty loaded on the DL. and i like thomas and easly backing up brockers and donald. im not sure id worry to much about it.

instead id be more worried at corner. i like johnson, gaines and joyner but after that it can be dicey. hill has been a nice find but i dont know if i want him starting and unfortunately sensenbaugh while apparently a very nice guy is looking like a bad pick up.





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Billy_T
Right now, I think the Rams' D is weakest at FS. They're basically three deep at Strong Safety, with three talented thumpers, Barron, Alexander and McDonald. The first two can and do play linebacker as well. But the Rams still lack a true center-fielder with great recovery speed, instincts, cover abilities, etc.

DE is the other spot. Hayes is solid, but getting older. Sims, IMO, should be cut (in the offseason) for one too many bone-headed personal fouls. Longacre has try-hard intangibles, but is limited physically. Westbrook is similar to Longacre, though a bit bigger. They need to find a bigger kamikaze DE who can do what Quinn does from the other side. They need a stronger version of Quinn, with as close to "elite" athleticism as they can find. Last year, I wanted them to pick Danielle Hunter, perhaps the most freakish athlete in the 2015 draft, and he's now doing well for the Vikings. They got him in the 3rd round, and he turns 22 later this month, which tells me he's got Pro Bowls in his future.

As in, they can find that kind of player, even without a #1.

Other spots that would help: Another DT, big enough, wide enough, strong enough to tie up blockers so Donald moves freely; a true outside linebacker, so the Rams don't have to play their safeties there unless they want to.

The Rams are very close to elite, potentially, IMO.
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  Elite D? I think they're two players away from that.

Billy_T1008October 04, 2016 06:09AM

  Re: Elite D? I think they're two players away from that.

CraigMatson398October 04, 2016 06:30AM

  Re: Elite D? I think they're two players away from that.

Billy_T380October 04, 2016 06:39AM

  i think your completely ignoring what GW wants to do

PHDram518October 04, 2016 06:34AM

  Re: Doesn't matter what GW wants to do.

Billy_T443October 04, 2016 06:46AM

  this is a bit pointless isnt it?

PHDram387October 04, 2016 09:03AM

  Re: Not really, in my view.

Billy_T404October 04, 2016 11:48AM

  Re: Doesn't matter what GW wants to do.

bigjimram21311October 04, 2016 08:24PM

  Re: i think your completely ignoring what GW wants to do

Rams43509October 04, 2016 06:59AM

  Re: I like the Easely pickup, definitely. And Thomas.

Billy_T371October 04, 2016 07:18AM

  I'm thinking more elite FS and MLB

six2stack311October 04, 2016 07:32AM

  Re: I'm thinking more elite FS and MLB

Billy_T402October 04, 2016 07:37AM

  Re: I'm thinking more elite FS and MLB

Rams43380October 04, 2016 07:39AM

  Re: i think your completely ignoring what GW wants to do

PHDram423October 04, 2016 09:20AM

  Re: i think your completely ignoring what GW wants to do

CraigMatson567October 04, 2016 07:03AM

  Re: Elite D? I think they're two players away from that.

Rams43506October 04, 2016 06:35AM

  Re: Elite D? I think they're two players away from that.

bigjimram21668October 04, 2016 08:35PM

  Re: Elite D? I think we are close

David Deacon412October 04, 2016 07:40AM

  Re: Elite D? I think we are close

six2stack450October 04, 2016 08:04AM

  Gives up too many yards to be elite

chunkmeister529October 04, 2016 07:57AM

  3rd down and red zone

LMU93343October 04, 2016 08:12AM

  Re: Gives up too many yards to be elite

bigjimram21319October 04, 2016 08:39PM

  24th in yards allowed 23rd in points allowed

ferragamo79480October 04, 2016 08:10AM

  Re: ask the Cardinals if the Rams defense is elite?

Speed_Kills774October 04, 2016 08:28AM

  And the return of Gaines changes everything

merlin443October 04, 2016 09:55AM

  im not an expert but i think less points is generally better

PHDram425October 04, 2016 09:10AM

  LOL PHd you're right

ferragamo79306October 04, 2016 06:35PM

  It's all good! Lol NM

PHDram311October 04, 2016 06:48PM

  I don't think GW's style is designed to make yards-allowed look good.

Saguaro507October 04, 2016 09:19AM

  Re: 9th in points allowed

dzrams403October 04, 2016 12:36PM

  I think they're headed toward a defensive draft

LMU93425October 04, 2016 12:40PM

  Re: I think they're headed toward a defensive draft

dzrams343October 04, 2016 01:23PM

  Yes and no

Suh-weet!374October 04, 2016 04:02PM

  Re: Yes and no

bigjimram21256October 04, 2016 08:48PM