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I'm gonna unpack some of that

August 30, 2016 05:43PM
Seems to me that was a lot of soft packaging, as we are want to do as fans, that effectively obscures a few uncomfortable truths.


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RockRam
When did the conventional wisdom change from when it is ALWAYS best to give a rookie QB at least 1 year holding a clipboard, and usually longer?

I don't think that's always the conventional wisdom. I think it's the conventional wisdom that when a team trades a significant chunk of its future away in exchange for drafting a QB roundly billed as NFL ready at #1 overall, he should be quickly better at playing QB in an NFL game than holding a clipboard in one.

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The Rams have a mature, mid-career QB who has started in the NFL.

That's one way of putting it I suppose. A more candid way of putting it is the Rams have a journeyman NFL backup who's been cut twice already in his four year career, including the same regime that now finds him a better option than the QB they just gave up the farm for and drafted #1 overall.

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Goff came from a fairly typical college system. He didn't take snaps from the Center and it was a heavy passing offense that ran from the shotgun exclusively.

Not really. He came from a somewhat a-typical, even for the rinky-dink college offenses of today, air-raid system. There has never been a QB to come from this specific college system that has gone on to significant NFL success. The failures started with Tim Couch and continued unabated since. And there are a couple notable current examples that haven't exactly flourished with this Rams system, Case Keenum and Nick Foles. If Goff succeeds, he will be the first. Yet, those who supported the move the Rams made to get him did so under the premise that he, as mentioned above, was the most NFL ready of them all.

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We have all watched what happens to rookie QBs with great promise when they are forced to start when they aren't ready. It is truly tragic.

What we've seen is what happens to QB's that aren't good enough, despite their "promise", fail in the NFL. Whether they are rushed or not. Whether it's Matt Leinart, Josh Freeman, Christian Ponder, Blaine Gabbert, Brandon Weeden, EJ Manuel, David Carr or Akili Smith. Not good enough. There are others, like Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco and Blake Bortles as a few current examples, that were thrown in early and took their lumps and managed to avoid career tragedy. They were good enough, though maybe the jury is still out on Bortles, though he appears to be on the come.

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Goff is going to be a good one and have a greater chance to succeed.

That's the hope, but the hope and early indications in this case are on apparent divergent paths.

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My hope is that Goff will more or less go the route of Aaron Rogers who had time to learn.

That would be fantastic, but keep in mind that Aaron Rogers was a better NFL QB than Case Keenum the day he stepped foot in Green Bay and would have never sat behind a journeyman backup type. Not in this lifetime.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Why it turned out best for Goff (and the Rams) not to be the starter

RockRam1211August 30, 2016 03:25AM

  Well said. (NM)

RFL447August 30, 2016 05:46AM

  IMO, he needs to add 20LBs or more

Atlantic Ram423August 30, 2016 05:57AM

  Re: IMO, he needs to add 20LBs or more

LMU93415August 30, 2016 06:17AM

  Keenum is consistent.

RockRam431August 30, 2016 06:42AM

  Consistently average

NewMexicoRam556August 30, 2016 06:59AM

  Re: Why it turned out best for Goff (and the Rams) not to be the starter

Blue and Gold417August 30, 2016 07:17AM

  Hoping Keenum can win 10 or 11 games seems delusional

promomasterj488August 30, 2016 07:59AM

  Re: Hoping Keenum can win 10 or 11 games seems delusional

PHDram424August 30, 2016 08:04AM

  How many passing TD's have the 1's put up?

promomasterj573August 30, 2016 08:26AM

  Re: How many passing TD's have the 1's put up?

LARams17428August 30, 2016 08:54AM

  none at all

TonyHunter87407August 30, 2016 10:10AM

  It won't be QB play that holds us back; it'll be WR

RockRam330August 30, 2016 08:08AM

  Denver hoping QB Trev Siemian can win games seems delusional....

SunTzu_vs_Camus341August 30, 2016 03:33PM

  And best for Fisher when he gets his extension soon..(NM)

PaulButcher59490August 30, 2016 09:03AM

  Re: Why it turned out best for Goff (and the Rams) not to be the starter

moklerman417August 30, 2016 09:03AM

  Re: Why it turned out best for Goff (and the Rams) not to be the starter

LARams17384August 30, 2016 09:06AM

  how did all those teams do that started the rookie QB???

Rampage2K-438August 30, 2016 09:47AM

  Re: how did all those teams do that started the rookie QB???

moklerman314August 30, 2016 10:07AM

  Let's see how we all feel after week 3 or 4

stlrams13420August 30, 2016 12:25PM

  whoopty whoop

ferragamo79536August 30, 2016 04:47PM

  Re: Why it turned out best for Goff (and the Rams) not to be the starter

Classicalwit413August 30, 2016 03:18PM

  it turned out best for Goff (and Rams) not to be the starter

Anonymous User538August 30, 2016 04:11PM

  I'm gonna unpack some of that

9er8er567August 30, 2016 05:43PM

  Re: I agree that its best for a guy to develop...but...

BumRap403August 30, 2016 06:36PM