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Ok, nice post. I thought it was hyperbole.

January 23, 2024 11:56AM
My reaction is based on seeing average time to throw stats for QB's.

4 or 5 seconds would be amazing off the charts as an average.

I actually tried to look up what it was for both QB's in that game.
I couldn't find that stat for this particular game BUT on Pro Football Reference I found the below listed for the 2023 Season. They are not in order for this stat.

The number column was labeled Pkt time. As you can see Goff's time to throw of 2.3 is not much different than anyone else's and less than quite a few. Mayfield's of 2.4 is just slightly longer. NO ONE has anything close to 4 or 5 seconds to throw the ball on a consistent basis.

So there goes the "Goff has so much time to throw" narrative for anyone with an open mind.

Tua Tagovailoa* 2.1
Jared Goff 2.3
Dak Prescott* 2.4
Josh Allen 2.3
Brock Purdy* 2.6
Patrick Mahomes* 2.5
Jordan Love 2.5
C.J. Stroud 2.5
Baker Mayfield 2.4
Trevor Lawrence 2.2
Matthew Stafford* 2.5
Sam Howell 2.4
Derek Carr 2.3
Jalen Hurts 2.6
Lamar Jackson*+ 2.7
Geno Smith 2.4
Gardner Minshew II 2.4
Justin Herbert 2.4
Russell Wilson 2.7
Bryce Young 2.5
Desmond Ridder 2.3
Justin Fields 2.8
Kirk Cousins 2.5
Joe Burrow 2.2
Zach Wilson 2.5
Aidan O'Connell 2.4
Mac Jones 2.2
Kenny Pickett 2.4
Jake Browning 2.5
Will Levis 2.5
Kyler Murray 2.4
Joe Flacco CLE 2.6

I don't doubt that on some particular play or plays you were able to make that count, but not consistently.
I just don't think so. I know I saw plays where Goff had guys coming at him and got rid of it, often for a completion. He was also sacked.

Your stated conclusion tho, was that Mayfield was better and would have won if he'd had Goff's time to throw and vice versa.
Seems like an unprovable assertion.

And there are so many other what if's. What if Goff had a tall beast of a receiver like Mike Evans, where he could just sort of fling it downfield in his direction and Evans would go get it. Cuz that's what I saw Mayfield do on their big scoring drive at the end of half 1.

Link to data is here: [www.pro-football-reference.com]
Go to the Pressure tab.



Ramily!



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/23/2024 12:33PM by Saguaro.
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  pulling for the 49ers

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  Re: pulling for the 49ers

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  Re: pulling for the 49ers

mtramfan128January 21, 2024 07:56PM

  I get it!

Speed_Kills192January 21, 2024 01:35PM

  Re: I get it!

CarolinaRam146January 21, 2024 01:39PM

  I do too

Stafford9110January 21, 2024 01:39PM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers

Classicalwit144January 21, 2024 01:40PM

  Gave us Stafford

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  Re: pulling for the 49ers

Speed_Kills148January 21, 2024 01:57PM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers

Classicalwit124January 21, 2024 02:07PM

  LOLOL. nm

Saguaro65January 21, 2024 02:25PM

  clearly someone gets it nm

Speed_Kills70January 21, 2024 02:26PM

  I thought you had retired...

JamesJM112January 21, 2024 02:28PM

  Hi James!

Saguaro105January 21, 2024 02:35PM

  Re: LOLOL. nm

Rampage2K-84January 21, 2024 03:17PM

  Re: LOLOL. nm

Saguaro68January 21, 2024 04:54PM

  please,thoughts on the game sir

Speed_Kills95January 21, 2024 04:59PM

  Re: please,thoughts on the game sir

Saguaro88January 21, 2024 06:45PM

  Pretty much how I see it..... where I differ....

JamesJM64January 21, 2024 07:48PM

  heres what I think

Speed_Kills83January 22, 2024 03:08AM

  Great post!

Saguaro62January 22, 2024 04:40AM

  Re: Great post!

ramithard66January 22, 2024 05:19AM

  Re: Great post!

Rampage2K-58January 22, 2024 09:05AM

  Let's Go Goff !! Attachments

ramithard102January 22, 2024 10:05AM

  Re: my thoughts on Goff, Mayfield.

mtramfan81January 22, 2024 10:53AM

  4 or 5 seconds! Ok, dude, whatever you say. Attachments

Saguaro101January 22, 2024 02:20PM

  Cool chart

max65January 23, 2024 03:16AM

  Very insightful post, max. thx.

Saguaro70January 23, 2024 06:05AM

  Thx Sag

max50January 23, 2024 06:26AM

  Re: Very insightful post, max. thx.

Speed_Kills68January 23, 2024 07:23AM

  Yeah, nothing to argue with there.

Saguaro73January 23, 2024 08:42AM

  Here’s what Goff is that most don’t get

max57January 23, 2024 09:13AM

  and see this is why we get along

Speed_Kills57January 23, 2024 09:18AM

  If the Lions had even just ONE starter quality corner....

Saguaro48January 23, 2024 09:37AM

  Re: If the Lions had even just ONE starter quality corner....

Speed_Kills51January 23, 2024 09:41AM

  Alright then, point of agreement.

Saguaro50January 23, 2024 09:43AM

  Re: Alright then, point of agreement.

Speed_Kills49January 23, 2024 09:53AM

  I have my own record to worry about, lol. Don't wanna be wrong.

Saguaro52January 23, 2024 10:15AM

  Re: I have my own record to worry about, lol. Don't wanna be wrong.

Speed_Kills42January 23, 2024 10:43AM

  I'd feel a lot more confident...

Saguaro53January 23, 2024 11:16AM

  Ugh

Speed_Kills41January 24, 2024 03:55AM

  like the Kosar comp

21Dog63January 23, 2024 07:06AM

  Re: 4 or 5 seconds! Ok, dude, whatever you say.

mtramfan48January 23, 2024 11:17AM

  Ok, nice post. I thought it was hyperbole.

Saguaro66January 23, 2024 11:56AM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers

Rampage2K-90January 21, 2024 03:16PM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers

Ekern5595January 21, 2024 04:59PM

  Oh I get it

Speed_Kills109January 21, 2024 05:16PM

  Re: Oh I get it

Ekern5562January 21, 2024 05:20PM

  Re: Oh I get it

Speed_Kills65January 21, 2024 05:35PM

  Wait must a darn minute

waterfield97January 21, 2024 06:20PM

  Re: Wait must a darn minute

Classicalwit97January 21, 2024 06:29PM

  Re: Wait must a darn minute

waterfield514January 21, 2024 06:50PM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers

stlramz96January 21, 2024 06:59PM

  LMAO!!

Speed_Kills87January 22, 2024 10:13AM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers

Rams4390January 22, 2024 04:08AM

  I just think its a bad look

Speed_Kills70January 22, 2024 10:19AM

  UUGH! I'm feeling the same way!

Ramgator93January 21, 2024 01:42PM

  That’s the grossest post I’ve ever seen…

max141January 21, 2024 01:44PM

  Re: That’s the grossest post I’ve ever seen…

Old Goat115January 21, 2024 01:50PM

  I can never do it

Hazlet Hacksaw74January 21, 2024 01:57PM

  If it's what Det did to the Rams....

JamesJM104January 21, 2024 02:02PM

  I mean I can never root for 49ers ever

Hazlet Hacksaw100January 21, 2024 02:05PM

  Here is reality check

max109January 21, 2024 02:21PM

  Anecdotal...

JamesJM79January 21, 2024 02:26PM

  Re: Anecdotal...

max84January 21, 2024 02:45PM

  Preach sweet baby James

ferragamo7973January 21, 2024 03:16PM

  I don't think either team can win

promomasterj61January 22, 2024 09:14AM

  Re: pulling for the.....Lions

NewMexicoRam80January 21, 2024 02:05PM

  OMG!!!! SHAME ON YOU

ferragamo79127January 21, 2024 02:14PM

  NO FLIPPING WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BerendsenRam105January 21, 2024 02:23PM

  Anybody but the Niners

RamsDynasty100January 21, 2024 02:39PM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers

RamsfanDave85January 21, 2024 02:51PM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers

Rampage2K-96January 21, 2024 03:58PM

  I’m with you.

max93January 21, 2024 04:27PM

  Re: I’m with you.

RamsDynasty91January 21, 2024 04:47PM

  Re: I’m with you.

Old Goat51January 23, 2024 03:54AM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers

six2stack100January 21, 2024 05:07PM

  Starting with My Passed on Parents that were Rams Fans from the Begining they despised the whiners !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BerendsenRam92January 21, 2024 05:23PM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers

Killrazor77January 21, 2024 10:48PM

  I hope they make it there and win it

LesBaker96January 21, 2024 05:30PM

  Never.

Ridgewood Ram106January 21, 2024 05:37PM

  GO RAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whiners Suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BerendsenRam77January 21, 2024 05:45PM

  Only one realistic scenario for Ram fan to post this

stlramz101January 21, 2024 07:02PM

  Re: Only one realistic scenario for Ram fan to post this

Speed_Kills87January 22, 2024 04:03AM

  Re: Only one realistic scenario for Ram fan to post this

waterfield81January 22, 2024 04:34PM

  Re:and thats cool waterfield

Speed_Kills60January 23, 2024 06:28AM

  Re: Re:and thats cool waterfield

waterfield82January 23, 2024 07:11AM

  Re: I hear you

Speed_Kills77January 23, 2024 07:34AM

  Bailing on Goff

waterfield60January 23, 2024 11:12AM

  Uhhh, no, just ....no

Ramboni87January 21, 2024 07:10PM

  No way, No how...... EVER!

RAMbler75January 21, 2024 07:46PM

  Sorry not Sorry, I will never pull for the 9ers.

Kilroy95January 22, 2024 04:10AM

  Re: Sorry not Sorry, I will never pull for the 9ers.

den-the-coach59January 22, 2024 04:34AM

  Re: Sorry not Sorry, I will never pull for the 9ers.

stlramz79January 22, 2024 10:33AM

  +1 brother.......nm

Arkansas Ram52January 22, 2024 12:14PM

  Re: Sorry not Sorry, I will never pull for the 9ers.

BerendsenRam68January 22, 2024 08:44AM

  I know you guys know this, but just a reminder.

Saguaro102January 22, 2024 08:18AM

  Re: I know you guys know this, but just a reminder.

BerendsenRam80January 22, 2024 09:00AM

  I will never root for the Whiners...

DaJudge97January 22, 2024 08:59AM

  Go Lions

LMU9362January 23, 2024 03:30AM

  Re: Go Lions

CarolinaRam61January 23, 2024 04:38AM

  Re: Go Lions

den-the-coach52January 23, 2024 05:08AM

  the kneecap sign

L.A.Rams96January 23, 2024 05:46AM

  Then you don't understand the kneecap sign...

Saguaro78January 23, 2024 12:39PM

  Re: Then you don't understand the kneecap sign...

waterfield56January 23, 2024 06:40PM

  Re: pulling for the 49ers - You do know that this is a Rams board, right?

RamsFanSinceLA64January 23, 2024 07:12AM

  I only root for the Niners against the Cowboys..

sstrams60January 23, 2024 10:46AM

  Jack Youngblood says.......

joram76January 24, 2024 01:41AM