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That is exactly NOT what he is saying. Not even close, not by a mile

September 08, 2023 03:33PM
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ABQRam
You have to be kidding me. Someone takes a play (where Goff completes the pass) and says he isn't all that good of a QB because he didn't see his favorite receiver open for perhaps a TD?

Watch it again and see what he is ACTUALLY saying.

He says that Goff played it right. He said the potential touchdown was not even in the progression and that passing on the possible touchdown was not
a bad play because it was not part of the play. The seam route was a clear out.

So, Goff did what he was taught, hit the Dig route. He did. Good play, first down. Moves the change. He's a good quarterback. That is what he said.

Then, from his memory bank he compared/contrasted why Stafford is MORE than a good quarterback. He took the same pass concept, similar coverage
and how Stafford TOOK IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

That is the point.

He never said Goff was "not that good of a quarterback" he specifically did not criticize Goff for not throwing to St' Brown ... he PRAISED Stafford for being great enough to go off script and get a touchdown on a clear out route.

His point is Goff is very good. Stafford is great.

He's not some Rams fan, he's a national writer. He has no agenda. He just use one play as an example of
why Stafford is able to do things Goff was not and it SUGGESTS why McVay traded Goff plus two #1 picks
and more for Stafford, who was fairly old and a little injured and streaky.

You can praise Stafford without ripping Goff. Taking his example to the extreme is not really what it is all about.
Further, It isn't one play anyway, we could find a ton of plays Goff left on the table. McVay saw it and wanted
to upgrade the QB position

it worked and Rams got better QB play

And you bring up flaws Stafford has ... that's totally fine and fair. He's never been truly elite. He is streaky
and has a lot of elite traits and some not-so-elite traits and Goff has a couple things he does better than
Stafford

But, in the final analysis Stafford does what McVay wants a lot better and this play is a microcosm of it.

Not that Benjamin as perfect, I don't think he got the coverage right... I think he blames the wrong guy
on the busted coverage... but still, to see a play in a game and remember a similar play from 16-18 months
ago is impressive.

That's the takeaway



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2023 03:37PM by JimYoungblood53.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Why Rams have a ring with Stafford ... Tweet

JimYoungblood53827September 07, 2023 09:12PM

  Priceless (nm)

AlbaNY_Ram89September 07, 2023 09:24PM

  yup nm

Speed_Kills78September 07, 2023 11:08PM

  awesome nm

joram84September 08, 2023 02:43AM

  So, Goff sucks and Stafford is great?

Ramsdude185September 08, 2023 03:08AM

  I think you might be overreacting a bit

Speed_Kills108September 08, 2023 06:36AM

  IDK Speed

Ramsdude83September 08, 2023 06:57AM

  That SB loss

waterfield97September 08, 2023 07:20AM

  no kupp either nm

Hazlet Hacksaw65September 08, 2023 07:22AM

  No Kupp when the Rams beat the Chiefs nm

Speed_Kills66September 08, 2023 07:24AM

  Yep but Pats D was way better than Chiefs

Hazlet Hacksaw64September 08, 2023 09:06AM

  Goff did miss a throw in the Superbowl

Ram_Ruler67September 08, 2023 08:41AM

  Ageed

Ramsdude70September 08, 2023 07:29AM

  Cooks didn't drop that pass though

Ram_Ruler142September 08, 2023 08:44AM

  Processing?

waterfield58September 09, 2023 07:23AM

  100% agree Attachments

JimYoungblood5348September 09, 2023 10:44AM

  Detroit took those draft choices

waterfield48September 09, 2023 02:17PM

  except when the Rams won the SB in 21

Speed_Kills70September 09, 2023 03:04PM

  Re: I think you might be overreacting a bit

JimYoungblood5396September 08, 2023 07:37AM

  Simply an outstanding video…

Rams4378September 08, 2023 06:58AM

  Re: So True

RamsFanSince6980September 08, 2023 07:41AM

  That’s a bit too simplistic to be honest…

Rampage2K-101September 08, 2023 07:59AM

  +1

Ramsdude64September 08, 2023 08:10AM

  Re: I mean… if you say so

Speed_Kills87September 08, 2023 08:32AM

  Re: I mean… if you say so

Rampage2K-72September 08, 2023 09:02AM

  It's a Tweet

JimYoungblood5395September 08, 2023 09:16AM

  Re: It's a Tweet

Rampage2K-138September 08, 2023 09:53AM

  All solid points you make

JimYoungblood5370September 08, 2023 10:36AM

  It is a knock on Goff

Ramsdude67September 08, 2023 10:53AM

  Pretty much

Suh-weet!62September 08, 2023 11:02AM

  It is the result of study

JimYoungblood5363September 08, 2023 11:47AM

  Youngblood I gotta say (edited)

Speed_Kills110September 09, 2023 07:49AM

  People forget it's just football

JimYoungblood5353September 09, 2023 10:08AM

  Yup, it was an agenda driven video

Ramsdude75September 08, 2023 11:53AM

  Re: I guess you could say there is an agenda

Speed_Kills106September 09, 2023 07:52AM

  Re: I guess you could say there is an agenda

Ramsdude63September 09, 2023 08:09AM

  Re: I guess you could say there is an agenda

Speed_Kills72September 09, 2023 08:25AM

  When I say "better"

Ramsdude68September 09, 2023 09:05AM

  Re: yeah we see it differently for sure

Speed_Kills48September 09, 2023 09:20AM

  Re: yeah we see it differently for sure

Ramsdude55September 09, 2023 09:28AM

  Kurt Warner

Speed_Kills53September 09, 2023 12:18PM

  Agreed Speed

Ramsdude49September 09, 2023 12:25PM

  I will admit

Speed_Kills46September 09, 2023 03:14PM

  Re: I will admit

Ramsdude90September 09, 2023 03:24PM

  Clear as day

JimYoungblood5379September 08, 2023 11:59AM

  nuff said nm

Speed_Kills39September 09, 2023 07:56AM

  It's like they hate that the Rams won the Super Bowl

JimYoungblood5347September 09, 2023 10:16AM

  This guy is saying one play defines Goff?

ABQRam103September 08, 2023 02:10PM

  That is exactly NOT what he is saying. Not even close, not by a mile

JimYoungblood5378September 08, 2023 03:33PM

  Re: That is exactly NOT what he is saying. Not even close, not by a mile

ABQRam64September 08, 2023 03:45PM

  One play? Or was it one example that represents many plays?

JimYoungblood5357September 08, 2023 04:08PM

  Re: One play? Or was it one example that represents many plays?

ABQRam102September 08, 2023 04:53PM

  The discussion was the difference in "next-level"

JimYoungblood5363September 08, 2023 05:03PM

  Nice post ABQ!

Ramsdude63September 09, 2023 04:30AM

  Re: Nice post ABQ!

ABQRam61September 09, 2023 06:08AM

  Re: Nice post ABQ!

JimYoungblood5351September 09, 2023 10:13AM

  Nice guy, smart guy - and he's COMPLETELY wrong

Suh-weet!78September 09, 2023 05:19AM

  Get ready brother!

Ramsdude69September 09, 2023 06:01AM

  Re: Get ready brother!

ABQRam60September 09, 2023 06:13AM

  Good read from our old friend zn re; Goff/Detroit...

Ramsdude78September 09, 2023 06:34AM

  Re: Good read from our old friend zn re; Goff/Detroit...

Suh-weet!54September 09, 2023 08:23AM

  Re: Get ready brother!

waterfield70September 09, 2023 07:35AM

  Chiefs had no deep saftey help, same route concept

JimYoungblood5360September 09, 2023 10:34AM

  Kurt Warner disagrees with you - and Ben

Suh-weet!46September 10, 2023 07:23AM

  Re: Why Rams have a ring with Stafford ... Tweet

Ridgewood Ram46September 09, 2023 07:44PM