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Re: I've been reluctant to post on this thread, but here goes...

July 02, 2023 11:57AM
Behind his coaching abilities, Vermeil is an extraordinary human being. For a start,Google (or DuckDuck) his remarks on leadership.

He took a sow's ear in Philadelphia and made it into a championship football team. He quickly built a so-so football team into a championship teram in St. Louis and after leaving St. Louis took the so-so Kansas City Chiefs to the playoffs. All of these teams made the playoffs three years later, two of them went to Super Bowls.

He was squeezed out of St. Louis by the Martz-Shaw-Marmey triumvirate. Martz took a team that Vermiel built to another Super Bowl before presiding over some horrible drafts and railroading Warner's career - or trying to, and ruining Faulk's by incessantly running him up the middle until his legs were beaten to a pulp.

Had Vermiel stayed and Martz left, he and, say, someone like Al Sunders or Pat Schurmer could have continued to field a dynamic offense with Warner, Faulk or Jackson, Ike and Torrey, and played championship ball for many seasons to come.

And, the defense wouldn't have collapsed. Vedrmiel wouldn't have let it.

On the dark side of the Martz regime, Vermiel wouldn't have sent Warner into games with a known broken hand. Vermiel wouldn't tell his OT's to hold and release their blocks for Warner for only a couple of seconds, in order to get Warner hit and damaged. Kyle Turley, then ROT for the Rams, testified to this but his remarks were soon squelched. In short, Mike Martz, offensive genius he may have been, was then at least a malevolent human being.

There's more, this is only some of what I remember after much digging and closely following what was going on in that era. Most - if not all - of it has been sent down the tubes.

What could have been if, and what was.... careers and lives were damaged by Mad Mike Martz.
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  What if Dick Vermeil didn’t retire after Rams ‘99 Super Bowl win as GSOT?

BerendsenRam365June 29, 2023 10:12AM

  Re: What if Dick Vermeil didn’t retire after Rams ‘99 Super Bowl win as GSOT?

JYB115June 29, 2023 10:49AM

  He seemed dumbfounded when Carter wanted out at the end of SB 34. nm

Ramgator79June 29, 2023 01:55PM

  Always beleived that Vermeil would have been steadying influence

JimYoungblood53118June 29, 2023 12:08PM

  Re: Always beleived that Vermeil would have been steadying influence

BerendsenRam131June 29, 2023 12:18PM

  Re: Always beleived that Vermeil would have been steadying influence

303090June 29, 2023 12:28PM

  Martz had already signed a contract with Rams to be next head coach

JimYoungblood5388June 29, 2023 02:24PM

  Re: Always beleived that Vermeil would have been steadying influence

mtramfan66July 02, 2023 12:30PM

  Re:Response to JY53

mtramfan55July 02, 2023 01:12PM

  If two things happen, Rams EASILY win THREE IN A ROW......

Ramgator90June 29, 2023 02:00PM

  Same guy called the plays, Guinta but

JimYoungblood5384June 29, 2023 02:30PM

  Re: Same guy called the plays, Guinta but

BerendsenRam128June 30, 2023 07:59AM

  Well, to repeat... about Vermeil....

JamesJM105June 29, 2023 09:29PM

  Re: I've been reluctant to post on this thread, but here goes...

mtramfan53July 02, 2023 11:57AM

  not saying it wasn't true, but......

21Dog61July 02, 2023 01:02PM

  Re: Kyle Turley as a truth-teller

mtramfan54July 02, 2023 01:20PM

  I think Vermeil keeps Bunting..

sstrams70June 30, 2023 10:35AM

  Agree on Bunting.

den-the-coach68June 30, 2023 10:40AM

  Bunting also not a play caller

JimYoungblood5341June 30, 2023 01:17PM

  Didn't Bunting go to the Saints?

sstrams47July 01, 2023 06:49AM

  No, but He was a linebacker coach for one year, 2000 then to college football

JimYoungblood5343July 01, 2023 07:32AM

  Re: No, but He was a linebacker coach for one year, 2000 then to college football

BerendsenRam54July 01, 2023 08:09AM

  And keeps Warner too

LesBaker69June 30, 2023 11:37AM

  Good to read you Les!

Crazylegs51July 01, 2023 09:38AM

  Re: Good to read you Les!

LesBaker41July 02, 2023 03:34PM

  A Rams Ravens Super Bowl would have been one for the ages

LesBaker47July 02, 2023 03:33PM

  Still had idiots in the Front office

David Deacon51July 01, 2023 04:03AM

  Shaw was not a leader.

JimYoungblood5340July 01, 2023 07:44AM

  Re: Shaw was not a leader.

den-the-coach55July 01, 2023 08:26AM

  Re: Shaw was not a leader.

BerendsenRam45July 02, 2023 12:19PM

  Re: Shaw was not a leader.

David Deacon53July 01, 2023 08:36AM

  Re: Still had idiots in the Front office

BerendsenRam66July 02, 2023 07:40AM

  Shaw was business poison

Coy Bacon46July 02, 2023 01:43PM