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Re: I don't think it;s the amount

August 18, 2017 08:36AM
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Question. Is it going to cost the Rams more NOW or 2-4 years from now?

It's fascinating to me how so many here just do not understand this simple math.

Is this going to be a big number in 2017? Sure, but it's only going to be that much MORE down the road.

Also if the Rams truly don't want to pay him I'm fairly certain there are multiple teams who will so just trade him and move on.

There are all sorts of hints out there that it's the structure. Like the rumored opt-out clause.

I hadn't heard the opt-out rumor. It would be interesting to know the actual facts of all this but I guess the total truth will never be known.

Rumor is that AD's agent wants a 3 year opt out clause, RFIP.

So that he can hold the Rams hostage again in 3 freaking years!

That would be an insane deal breaker!

But if he signs a 5 year deal with all G jack in first 3 years then it's completely ok for RAMS to walk away after the 3rd year if they choose???

Yeah, this is pretty much the sticking point. The teams can cancel contracts at their whim but the players can't.

The 3 year opt out thing aligns with the rumors of the agent trying to set a precedent and change the way contracts are done.

To be honest that does level the playing field and makes things more equitable between players and teams.

The Rams, OTOH, are trying to tie AD up for as long as possible. There was also a rumor of a "lifetime" contract. That clearly benefits the team.

Longer contracts benefit the teams; shorter contracts benefit the players especially when the player is on a HOF trajectory.

For AD it's a huge deal because he's already 26. A 6 year contract means he would be 32 when he is up for a 3rd contract. A 3 year contract or an opt out after the 3rd year means he would only be 29 and still in his prime for his 3rd contract.

For the Rams, an opt out at 3 years is a none starter. If the new contract were to start in the 2018 season, that only gets them two extra years on the current contract.

If these are the sticking points, It's going to be an uphill battle for AD to win this because I suspect the NFL and other owners will be putting pressure on the Rams to not cave.

There's no way the league wants contract opt outs for the players. However, that is the most fair thing.
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  Holt on Sirius now nm

RFIP1307August 17, 2017 11:08AM

  Re: Holt on Sirius now nm

RFIP664August 17, 2017 11:13AM

  So am I, thanks for the updates

Ram49642August 17, 2017 11:14AM

  Re: So am I, thanks for the updates

RFIP554August 17, 2017 11:21AM

  Uh...

Ramadune498August 17, 2017 12:25PM

  Re: Lemme ask you a question...

laram597August 17, 2017 11:37AM

  My Reply...

ramsfaninmd565August 17, 2017 11:42AM

  Re: My Reply...

laram460August 17, 2017 11:46AM

  Re: My Reply...

ramsfaninmd470August 17, 2017 11:58AM

  Re: My Reply...

SoCalRAMatic467August 17, 2017 12:08PM

  Re: Lemme ask you a question...

zn482August 17, 2017 11:53AM

  Re: Lemme ask you a question...

Rampage2K-477August 17, 2017 11:58AM

  Correct

Blue and Gold533August 17, 2017 12:18PM

  Re:+1000...NM

laram330August 17, 2017 12:23PM

  He might be a tough sale at this point in a trade.

Rampage2K-537August 17, 2017 12:30PM

  I think it's a different deal with Suh

Blue and Gold447August 17, 2017 12:39PM

  Re: And that often takes him out of plays too...NM

laram338August 17, 2017 12:40PM

  Re: I think it's a different deal with Suh

zn570August 17, 2017 01:37PM

  Depends on timing (how late in camp)

Blue and Gold311August 17, 2017 03:33PM

  He has maximum value now

Old Goat317August 17, 2017 03:01PM

  Absolutely B&G

GreatRamNTheSky486August 17, 2017 01:29PM

  Totally agree. Move on if you have to

Hazlet Hacksaw380August 18, 2017 01:48AM

  Re: Correct

AlbaNY_Ram324August 18, 2017 03:04AM

  I agree with Rampage

six2stack341August 17, 2017 12:30PM

  Re: Contract cops?

laram543August 17, 2017 12:03PM

  LA...

ramsfaninmd390August 17, 2017 12:06PM

  how they not worth 20 M a year? sez who?

zn361August 17, 2017 12:14PM

  Re: how they not worth 20 M a year? sez who?

ramsfaninmd340August 17, 2017 12:20PM

  Re: how they not worth 20 M a year? sez who?

zn343August 17, 2017 12:24PM

  Re: how they not worth 20 M a year? sez who?

bigjimram21352August 17, 2017 01:40PM

  Re: how they not worth 20 M a year? sez who?

zn378August 17, 2017 01:48PM

  Re: Contract cops?

zn317August 17, 2017 12:09PM

  You and I are on the same page LA.

RockRam387August 17, 2017 11:59AM

  I watched the Rams Dolphins game last night

Atlantic Ram349August 17, 2017 12:20PM

  I don't think you should him like a top QB

Atlantic Ram360August 17, 2017 12:08PM

  Re: I don't think you should him like a top QB

zn344August 17, 2017 12:20PM

  Well there are top QB's that are being paid $20mil

Atlantic Ram483August 17, 2017 12:33PM

  that's not how you calculate it

zn321August 17, 2017 01:07PM

  Re: that's not how you calculate it

bigjimram21318August 17, 2017 01:46PM

  Yes I get that

Atlantic Ram328August 17, 2017 02:54PM

  Re: Yes I get that

zn318August 17, 2017 04:01PM

  Re: Brady has been huge discounts for several years (nm)

dzrams345August 17, 2017 01:28PM

  Re: Brady has been huge discounts for several years (nm)

RFIP321August 17, 2017 01:34PM

  Re: Imagine that your best player taking a discount!!...NM

laram360August 17, 2017 01:44PM

  Re: It's a personal thing...

dzrams338August 17, 2017 01:52PM

  Re: I don't think there is judgement with one exception...

laram343August 17, 2017 01:57PM

  Re: I don't think there is judgement with one exception...

dzrams343August 17, 2017 03:54PM

  Re: so your saying the NFL should get rid of the cap...nm

VANRAM328August 18, 2017 11:19AM

  Re: Nope. Not even sure how you got there...nm

dzrams340August 18, 2017 12:20PM

  Re: I don't think there is judgement with one exception...

Rampage2K-319August 18, 2017 11:26AM

  Re: I don't think there is judgement with one exception...

dzrams334August 18, 2017 12:19PM

  hate to keep saying this but it's a fact.

zn296August 18, 2017 12:57PM

  Re: hate to keep saying this but it's a fact...me too.

Rampage2K-318August 18, 2017 01:54PM

  Re: hate to keep saying this but it's a fact...me too.

zn329August 18, 2017 02:12PM

  Re: hate to keep saying this but it's a fact...me too.

Rampage2K-321August 18, 2017 02:33PM

  Re: hate to keep saying this but it's a fact...me too.

zn328August 18, 2017 02:41PM

  Re: hate to keep saying this but it's a fact...me too.

Rampage2K-321August 18, 2017 02:46PM

  Re: hate to keep saying this but it's a fact...me too.

zn352August 18, 2017 03:26PM

  Re: hate to keep saying this but it's a fact...me too.

Rampage2K-298August 18, 2017 03:46PM

  Re: hate to keep saying this but it's a fact...me too.

zn341August 18, 2017 03:52PM

  Right, lol

Atlantic Ram310August 17, 2017 02:58PM

  MY Concern

RFIP341August 17, 2017 01:20PM

  Re: MY Concern

JYB349August 17, 2017 06:31PM

  If we have that QB in Goff

RamUK366August 18, 2017 10:04AM

  Re: Holt on Sirius now nm

Rampage2K-390August 17, 2017 11:21AM

  Re: Holt on Sirius now nm

Ramadune356August 17, 2017 12:21PM

  The thread topic that just won't die. Lol.

Rams43332August 17, 2017 06:54PM

  Re: The thread topic that just won't die. Lol.

RFIP318August 18, 2017 02:44AM

  I don't think it;s the amount

zn351August 18, 2017 02:49AM

  Re: I don't think it;s the amount

RFIP329August 18, 2017 03:21AM

  Re: I don't think it;s the amount

Rams43336August 18, 2017 04:07AM

  Re: I don't think it;s the amount

RFIP471August 18, 2017 05:02AM

  Re: I don't think it;s the amount

AlbaNY_Ram366August 18, 2017 05:15AM

  Re: I don't think it;s the amount

dzrams404August 18, 2017 08:36AM

  Re: Good post.....

RamFire338August 18, 2017 10:44AM

  Re: The thread topic that just won't die. Lol.

bigjimram21308August 18, 2017 09:44AM