Welcome! Log In Create A New Profile


I can't shake Covid-19: Warnings from young survivors still suffering

July 18, 2020 04:19AM
I can't shake Covid-19: Warnings from young survivors still suffering

By Ryan Prior, CNN
Updated 4:02 AM ET, Sat July 18, 2020

(CNN)Daniel Green is still hobbled by the severe viral infection that struck him in March and left him coughing up blood.
Three months ago, the 28-year-old postdoctoral research associate from Newcastle, United Kingdom, was on the road with friends in a band as they toured venues in the French Alps.
He came down with Covid-19 symptoms, and like many coronavirus patients, spent weeks in bed.
Unlike other people, however, Green's life hasn't returned to normal.
"Since then it's been on and off with extreme tiredness and fatigue," he said.
Every day he has brain fog, difficulty concentrating and problems with short-term memory that make reading, writing and speaking harder.

"Breathing has been very difficult," he said. "I don't feel like I have my full breath capacity. If I go for a walk for one minute, I'll be really exhausted."
The profound mark the disease has made on Green's life isn't uncommon.
"About 80% are going to experience a mild or asymptomatic version of Covid. It's the other 20% that we're worried about," said Dr. Luis Ostrosky-Zeichner, a professor of medicine at the University of Texas McGovern Medical School.
"One out of five patients are going to get a severe form of the disease."

Some young people are not getting better

As case counts among young people rise, Green and others in their 20s want to share stories of the wreckage Covid-19 has wrought in their lives.
Those patients can potentially experience permanent lung damage, including scarring and reduced lower respiratory capacity.
"The thing that we don't yet fully appreciate is what happens when you get infected, and you get serious disease, and you recover?" said Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, at the BIO International Convention in June.
"We don't know the extent of full recovery or partial recovery, so there's a lot we need to learn," he said.

Young people, who are less likely to die from coronavirus than their grandparents, are an important target of those lessons.
Whether they contracted the virus among the snow-capped peaks of the Alps or in the heart of the outbreak in New York City's borough of Queens, some 20-somethings are getting sick from Covid-19. And staying sick.
Their stories are a warning from millennials to millennials: Don't play the odds with coronavirus because this disease could permanently damage your body.
"What I like to tell my students and patients is that this is a lottery you do not want to win," said Ostrosky-Zeichner.

A 28-year-old postdoc feels like a leper

At home in Newcastle, Green is in his fourth month of Covid-19 aftermath.
He has a doctor's note saying that he shouldn't return to full-time work, but he picks up an occasional project when he can. There isn't much else to do resting in bed.
The symptoms are lingering, and they're severe.

"Two weeks ago I had a crushing sensation in my chest," he said. "It felt like I couldn't breathe. That was the worst part."
Last week, while driving, he felt faint and had to pull over to the side of the road to call an ambulance to pick him up. Afraid of blacking out behind the wheel, he decided to take a break from driving.

He joined the Long Covid Support Group, where he's been sharing his experiences with more than 6,000 others from around the world afflicted with similar symptoms following Covid-19 infection.
His girlfriend, a nurse, lives in town, but aside from a few socially distanced walks, they haven't seen each other in person in months.
"When I feel ill, I wonder if it's Covid, or is it me picking up every bug because my immune system is so low?"
He's caught in limbo somewhere between sickness and health. He has a disease the medical establishment is still struggling to define, and it's unclear whether it's safe for him or others to be in contact with each other.
"You kind of feel like a leper, really," he said.

A 28-year-old TV writer needs an inhaler to work out

When Morgan Swank got sick around Christmas, she texted her friends, "I'm dying. I've never felt like this before."
The Atlanta-based television writer has credits on "Saturday Night Live," "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon," and "The Mindy Project," and she now runs a production company focusing on elevating projects from women and filmmakers of color.
Swank had a fever for three weeks and lost her sense of smell for nine days. While ill with what she thought was the flu, she passed out in an airport during an international trip, she said.
A nonsmoker who worked out three times a week, she wasn't used to struggling for air.
Swank eventually tested positive for Covid-19 antibodies in April, but her lungs are damaged from a month of hard coughing.
She's back to working out, and in addition to boxing gloves, she now keeps Albuterol inhalers with her boxing gloves in her gym bag. The inhalers help her finish her workout.
"I have to use an inhaler every couple minutes to reinvigorate my lungs," she said.
Even short conversations can be a struggle. "I hear it in my voice just talking to you," she said in a phone interview. "I'm winded."
Getting sick again is her biggest worry, and she feels like her immune system is now compromised.
"I really wish people would wear their masks all the time," she said. "If I get another respiratory infection like the flu and my lungs get damaged from that, I may have to be hospitalized."

A 29-year-old lawyer tested positive for Covid-19 twice

When Jordan Josey got Covid-19 the first time, he felt like he was suffocating. The disease partially collapsed one of his lungs.
"Shortness of breath was my biggest problem," he said. "Coronavirus takes your energy away completely. You're always dazed and tired. I could sleep for 13 hours."
Josey, who works as a lawyer in Macon, Georgia, tested positive for coronavirus on April 1. He shared details of his 103-degree temperature and stabbing chest pains in his local paper.
He eventually started feeling a little better and tested positive for antibodies. He donated his blood plasma so that others might also benefit from his immunity.
But then in late June, that same shortness of breath and lightheadeness returned. He was winded just folding laundry. He tested positive again.
"I just sat there and shook my head," he said. "I didn't want to go through it all again. It was awful."
On July 1, he dropped that bomb in a text message to his family. With a mother who's immunocompromised and a grandfather undergoing chemotherapy for cancer, Josey's second Covid-19 diagnosis has the whole family nervous.
"Nothing about my test indicated it was a second strain," he said. "I thought, 'How is this possible?' And really, no one knows. The doctors think it may have flared back up."
One of the things that irks him is a common belief that people will be fine after they contract the coronavirus and test positive for antibodies.
"I don't buy that at all," he said. "My doctor said I might even test positive a third time."
Like many in their 20s, Josey and his wife used to love meeting friends for dinner before heading to a concert, bar or club. With him testing positive twice and her testing positive once, they haven't done that since February.
"This thing is no joke. I'm young and healthy, and it did all this to me," Josey said. "Coronavirus is now a much bigger threat than it was when I got sick. And it's all in conjunction with people going to bars and nightclubs and large parties."

A 24-year-old college student has a warning for his generation

Nearly 1,000 miles away in Queens, New York, Kevin Garcia is also grappling with long-term fallout from Covid-19. He desperately wants his peers to be safe as case numbers rise again.
The college student is currently furloughed from his job during the pandemic. But even if he wasn't, he doesn't feel fit to return to work. He's functioning only at about 75%, and just walking up a flight of stairs is a major challenge.
He's nowhere near his pre-pandemic days of going to work, school, the gym and bars all in one packed marathon day.
His symptoms began March 25 when he had to call an ambulance. "I felt something foreign in my body."
Within a week and a half, it felt like his body was in an "all-out war."
After more than two weeks of body aches, fatigue and gastrointestinal issues, he managed to survive. But his new life is different than the old one.
"I saw doctors bringing out dead bodies every day. I heard ambulances probably 50 times a day," he said. "I'm glad that I'm alive because a lot of people my age died."
He too wants to push against the conventional narrative that young people can get sick, get immune and return to their previous lives. And he wants the world to know that post-Covid symptoms aren't imaginary.
"You don't tell people with Covid they have anxiety," he explained. "We're nervous. We have a disease you guys don't know enough about. We survived it, and now we have symptoms that are coming and going."
"I hope that it's not chronic and that I don't become bedridden," he said. "I have a long life ahead of me."
He'll turn 25 in December, and didn't imagine he'd celebrate a quarter century so humbled, and almost certainly without a party. But now forgoing parties is his highest priority for himself, and his generation.

"After the Spanish flu, we had the Roaring '20s. That could be the case after coronavirus. This is temporary," he said. "But don't risk your life. You can die from this."
His message for young people was that if you didn't want to hear it from public health officials, you could take it from him: Wear a mask. Avoid crowds. Wash your hands. Don't touch your face.
"I don't think anybody should see someone die over one or two hours of fun," he added.
"We can have days of fun when this is over. Sacrifice the time now."



  covid-19 thread (from 7/8)

zn489July 08, 2020 08:46AM

  My thoughts are...

sstrams57July 09, 2020 07:20AM

  Re: My thoughts are...

zn69July 09, 2020 07:39AM

  I have a bad way..

sstrams52July 09, 2020 09:03AM

  I agree with that

zn48July 09, 2020 09:08AM

  I honestly am done with politics..

sstrams64July 09, 2020 09:52AM

  Re: I honestly am done with politics..

zn50July 09, 2020 12:49PM

  Its all good, man..

sstrams47July 09, 2020 12:58PM

  Sweden Has Become the World's Cautionary Tale

ramBRO52July 09, 2020 07:22AM

  Swedish doctors: Don't do what we did. It's not working.

zn22July 21, 2020 08:18PM

  Got my Covid test 2 days ago. Results are in.... "Negative". It's like everyone figured..

Ramgator39July 09, 2020 07:26AM

  like the old Dizzy Dean line........

21Dog61July 09, 2020 09:28AM

  Re: Got my Covid test 2 days ago. Results are in.... "Negative". It's like everyone figured..

zn38July 09, 2020 01:33PM

  LOLOL When the girl rammed the Q Tip up my nose.....

Ramgator31July 13, 2020 05:05PM

  Cases Are Rising, Why Are Deaths Flatlining

zn70July 10, 2020 02:26AM

  Death rates rising in Calif

waterfield39July 10, 2020 08:34AM

  Re: and in AZ, TN, TX, SC, FL, and NV Attachments

AlbaNY_Ram42July 10, 2020 10:49AM

  Texas COVID deaths higher than publicly reported

zn48July 11, 2020 05:01AM

  Coronavirus deaths take a long-expected turn for the worse

AlbaNY_Ram29July 11, 2020 12:46PM

  Hey we do everything bigger in Texas..

sstrams46July 11, 2020 12:51PM

  Crucial Risk Factors for Coronavirus Deaths

zn45July 10, 2020 05:53AM

  A Lot of Athletes Seem to Have the Coronavirus. Here Are Some Reasons

ramBRO52July 10, 2020 10:28AM

  Hey I like this thread and appreciate the posts

ferragamo7947July 10, 2020 02:57PM

  Re: Hey I like this thread and appreciate the posts

zn44July 10, 2020 03:22PM

  I agree.

Ramgator32July 13, 2020 05:07PM

  Israel & world's worst second wave

zn38July 11, 2020 07:09AM

  Why are young, healthy people dying of coronavirus?

zn41July 11, 2020 07:28AM

  "Hundreds have died"

PHDram44July 11, 2020 07:54AM


zn35July 11, 2020 08:31AM


PHDram34July 11, 2020 08:48AM

  Re: yup

zn36July 11, 2020 10:29AM


PHDram31July 11, 2020 10:33AM

  is there a "post-covid 19 syndrome" ie. longterm effects

zn43July 11, 2020 09:31AM

  covid survivors can suffer weeks after virus clears

zn42July 11, 2020 12:50PM

  "Though there is no data on long-term effects"

PHDram36July 11, 2020 09:16PM


zn38July 12, 2020 04:28AM

  Re: yet

PHDram26July 12, 2020 06:03AM

  where we are in terms of discovering its long-term impacts

zn36July 12, 2020 09:09AM

  Re: where we are in terms of discovering its long-term impacts

zn31July 12, 2020 09:49AM

  Re: 2 where we are in terms of discovering its long-term impacts

zn40July 13, 2020 03:32PM

  more on longterm effects ... 7/14

zn31July 14, 2020 08:49AM

  a simple plasma shot could prevent covid, but.......

Rampage2K-37July 11, 2020 07:07PM

  'new and powerful weapon' against the coronavirus destroys particles

PHDram46July 11, 2020 09:45PM

  Re: Texas: Experts fear for elderly amid virus surge in state with most nursing homes

AlbaNY_Ram32July 12, 2020 08:23AM

  Internal CDC documents warn full reopening of schools is 'highest risk' for coronavirus spread

zn33July 12, 2020 10:28AM

  Why the Protests Didn’t Contribute to the COVID-19 Surge

zn36July 12, 2020 12:02PM

  Disney World reopened

IowaRam34July 12, 2020 03:38PM

  Count me out!

Ramgator27July 12, 2020 03:51PM

  'It's going to be really ugly.' Here come the big bank earnings

PHDram40July 13, 2020 05:26AM

  Cali/LA Going In the Wrong Direction

ramBRO43July 13, 2020 03:56PM

  (sigh!) So Sad

ramBRO40July 13, 2020 04:27PM

  Only in the US..

sstrams45July 14, 2020 04:54AM

  5 Ways the Flu Can Affect Your Health Even After You Feel Better

PHDram33July 14, 2020 01:18PM

  Interesting Article About Mask Wearing

ramBRO42July 14, 2020 01:33PM

  Re: Interesting Article About Mask Wearing

MamaRAMa43July 14, 2020 01:52PM

  Re: Interesting Article About Mask Wearing

ramBRO37July 14, 2020 02:16PM

  Re: Interesting Article About Mask Wearing

MamaRAMa37July 16, 2020 01:49PM

  Re: Interesting Article About Mask Wearing

zn36July 16, 2020 04:01PM

  first vaccine tested in the U.S. for the coronavirus

zn51July 14, 2020 03:03PM

  UPDATE: Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid Vaccine Study...7/20

zn27July 20, 2020 05:49AM

  A New Understanding of Herd Immunity

PHDram31July 14, 2020 04:15PM

  a new unproven theory of Herd Immunity + warnings that it probably isn't enough

zn41July 14, 2020 04:46PM

  Well new is kinda in the title

PHDram25July 14, 2020 05:45PM

  Re: A New Understanding of Herd Immunity

ramBRO34July 14, 2020 05:44PM

  Re: A New Understanding of Herd Immunity

waterfield33July 14, 2020 08:19PM

  Tate Reeves, Republican Governor of Mississippi, on "herd immunity"

zn51July 15, 2020 03:43PM

  Re: Tate Reeves, Republican Governor of Mississippi, on "herd immunity"

Rampage2K-39July 15, 2020 07:13PM

  wishful thinking?

zn39July 15, 2020 08:28PM

  Re: wishful thinking?

Rampage2K-32July 15, 2020 08:42PM

  Re: wishful thinking?

zn34July 15, 2020 08:51PM

  Was wearing masks

PHDram27July 15, 2020 09:53PM

  Scientific Journal Pulls Over a Dozen Papers by Chinese Researchers

PHDram29July 16, 2020 04:16AM

  deaths are rising again (7/16)

zn37July 16, 2020 08:17AM

  I can't shake Covid-19: Warnings from young survivors still suffering

MamaRAMa44July 18, 2020 04:19AM

  CDC director: We can control virus in 4-8 weeks if everyone in US wears a mask

zn33July 18, 2020 06:29PM

  out today and less than half people wearing mask

ferragamo7936July 18, 2020 06:31PM

  Re: out today and less than half people wearing mask

waterfield29July 18, 2020 08:04PM

  Re: out today and less than half people wearing mask

zn30July 18, 2020 09:34PM

  Pre-existing immunity to SARS-CoV-2

PHDram31July 19, 2020 06:16AM

  Cholesterol-lowering drug could see coronavirus treated like common cold

Rampage2K-44July 19, 2020 07:33AM

  Interesting...i recall hearing about the cholesterol connection earlier

PHDram30July 19, 2020 10:21AM

  School-aged kids may spread the virus in homes more than adults, new study finds

zn32July 23, 2020 01:34PM

  CDC guidelines favor of opening schools

PHDram24July 23, 2020 05:50PM

  some say students don’t catch, spread COVID-19. Studies say it’s not that simple

zn31July 24, 2020 02:11PM

  7/31: Researchers find COVID-infected children may be major carriers

zn13July 31, 2020 12:42PM

  CDC says children susceptible to COVID-19

zn11August 01, 2020 09:14AM

  Indiana was undercounting coronavirus deaths in nursing homes

zn20July 28, 2020 07:17PM

  Covid-19 infections raise concerns about lasting heart damage

zn17July 29, 2020 11:32AM

  What would happen if they got it again?

Atlantic Ram19July 29, 2020 05:48PM

  Re: What would happen if they got it again?

zn18July 30, 2020 06:21AM

  Sweden Sees COVID-19 Cases Plummet as Rest of Europe Suffers Spike

PHDram26July 30, 2020 05:05AM

  Re: Sweden Sees COVID-19 Cases Plummet as Rest of Europe Suffers Spike

AlbaNY_Ram27July 30, 2020 10:09AM

  Re: Sweden Sees COVID-19 Cases Plummet as Rest of Europe Suffers Spike

zn26July 30, 2020 11:39AM

  Sweden Unveils ‘Promising’ Covid-19 Data as New Cases Plunge

PHDram23July 30, 2020 01:14PM

  it;s not just deaths

zn52August 02, 2020 10:04AM

  A couple of other interesting thoughts from the author

PHDram18August 02, 2020 11:13AM

  Re: A couple of other interesting thoughts from the author

Rampage2K-23August 02, 2020 12:21PM

  Re: it;s not just deaths

Rampage2K-25August 02, 2020 12:17PM

  Re: it;s not just deaths

zn23August 03, 2020 05:32AM

  i was under the impression

PHDram16August 03, 2020 05:56AM

  don;t speak for other people

zn25August 03, 2020 06:42AM

  It contributes nothing.

PHDram22August 03, 2020 07:37AM

  a superintendent on trying to reopen his schools safely[

zn16August 03, 2020 08:24PM

  COVID-19 has created unprecedented levels of child abuse

PHDram13August 03, 2020 09:12PM

  Coronavirus leads to mass hunger, killing 10,000 children a month

PHDram10August 04, 2020 03:44AM

  Too Many Are Too Selfish- Cases Near 5 Milion in US

Rampage2K-21August 04, 2020 10:41AM

  from that

zn14August 04, 2020 11:55AM

  Re: deja vu all over again: The Mask Slackers of 1918

AlbaNY_Ram14August 04, 2020 01:29PM

  Re: deja vu all over again: The Mask Slackers of 1918

Rampage2K-15August 04, 2020 02:31PM

  As Covid-19 Cases Surge, Patients Are Dying At A Lower Rate. Here's Why

ramBRO9August 09, 2020 07:52AM