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Re: A New Understanding of Herd Immunity

July 14, 2020 05:44PM
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PHDram
“We just keep running the models, and it keeps coming back at less than 20 percent,” Gomes said. “It’s very striking.”

[amp-theatlantic-com.cdn.ampproject.org]

I will admit that this wasn't an easy read for me. But I found it nevertheless FASCINATING. Thanks for sharing.

The two things that I keep taking away from articles such as this is that:

1) We're dealing with something new and we can't always assume that this virus will behave like others; and,

2) We have it well within ourselves to reduce the coronavirus' transmitability by VERY SIMPLE, COST-EFFECTIVE METHODS (i.e. wear a mask when out in public; wash your hands regularly; and, be socially distant).

With respect to #2, I just want to reiterate that it's the most cost-effective (not that it's without cost).
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  What do you think of this idea...

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  Re: What do you think of this idea...

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  Re: What if ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Closer Than Scientists Thought?

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  Re: What if ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Closer Than Scientists Thought?

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  Re: What if ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Closer Than Scientists Thought?

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  Re: What if ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Closer Than Scientists Thought?

PHDram58August 18, 2020 06:23AM

  I disagree

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  Re: What if ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Closer Than Scientists Thought?

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  Re: What if ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Closer Than Scientists Thought?

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  Re: What if ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Closer Than Scientists Thought?

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  Re: One-size Covid policy doesn’t not fit all. (Article)

ramBRO55August 18, 2020 06:54PM

  Just saw my internist

waterfield62August 18, 2020 03:12PM

  Re: Just saw my internist

MamaRAMa63August 18, 2020 03:25PM

  Re: Just saw my internist

waterfield51August 18, 2020 07:40PM

  Re: Just saw my internist

zn49August 18, 2020 08:24PM

  It's time to come to grips with what this means...

JamesJM63August 18, 2020 08:37PM

  Re: It's time to come to grips with what this means...

zn61August 18, 2020 09:01PM

  What I find is that...

JamesJM49August 18, 2020 09:30PM

  Re: What I find is that...

zn60August 18, 2020 10:09PM

  In all sincerity, ZN...

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  Re: In all sincerity, ZN...

zn55August 18, 2020 10:44PM

  Why me? (nm)

JamesJM42August 18, 2020 10:54PM

  Re: Why me? (nm)

zn49August 18, 2020 11:18PM

  That was answered.. in unequivocal terms..

JamesJM54August 18, 2020 11:24PM

  Re: That was answered.. in unequivocal terms..

zn60August 18, 2020 11:50PM

  Re: It's time to come to grips with what this means...

ramBRO91August 19, 2020 04:53AM

  theories?

PHDram72August 19, 2020 05:20AM

  Re: theories?

ramBRO64August 19, 2020 06:26AM

  Re: theories?

AlbaNY_Ram62August 19, 2020 06:49AM

  Re: theories?

ramBRO64August 19, 2020 07:12AM

  Re: theories?

AlbaNY_Ram73August 19, 2020 02:32PM

  Re: theories?

PHDram61August 19, 2020 04:35PM

  cost benefit

PHDram62August 19, 2020 10:57AM

  Re: cost benefit

AlbaNY_Ram64August 19, 2020 02:15PM

  Re: cost benefit

PHDram78August 19, 2020 05:01PM

  Re: cost benefit

waterfield59August 19, 2020 09:57PM

  i disagree

PHDram64August 20, 2020 05:10AM

  Re: i disagree

waterfield55August 20, 2020 09:37AM

  Re: i disagree

zn48August 20, 2020 09:59AM

  no it doesnt sound familiar.

PHDram55August 20, 2020 11:55AM

  Re: no it doesnt sound familiar.

waterfield52August 20, 2020 01:40PM

  Re: no it doesnt sound familiar.

PHDram53August 20, 2020 04:52PM

  Re: no it doesnt sound familiar.

waterfield50August 20, 2020 07:48PM

  Re: no it doesnt sound familiar.

zn54August 20, 2020 08:38PM

  Re: no it doesnt sound familiar.

PHDram49August 21, 2020 11:35AM

  Re: no it doesnt sound familiar.

waterfield55August 21, 2020 12:04PM

  Isn't that what I said above?

PHDram47August 22, 2020 03:26PM

  gotcha

PHDram60August 19, 2020 10:49AM

  Re: Just saw my internist

ramBRO85August 18, 2020 03:38PM

  He was scary

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  I can’t believe this is a real article

Atlantic Ram54August 23, 2020 05:19AM

  A thank you to those who have posted in this thread

AlbaNY_Ram56August 21, 2020 06:26AM

  Absolutely what AlbaNY said ^^^^

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