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Agree with some of this

January 05, 2023 05:58AM
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As long as we play soft coverage / bend / don't break, I say just get some Average Joe or keep what we have. Then I'd go Top Of The Class across the board on O line. Because the current system puts a helluva lot of pressure on the O to score and not only be leading late in the 4th but by MORE than one TD and 2 point Conversion. Our scheme on D has even tied AD's hands. Hell, we could have another Fearsome Foursome but it doesn't mean Jack if QBs are getting rid of the ball in hardly two seconds to Receivers that have LOTS of room to run underneath and then met by a Secondary that cannot or will not (Observers) tackle worth a crap.

The main one being that we already saw that adding a premium pass rusher works in this system. We played the same system last year and Donald and Miller wreaked havoc.

Also, the current system does not put a lot of pressure on the offense to score. In fact if put offense would've been even average then we would've won at least 3 more games already. Our RedZone defense was top 5 last I checked. So forcing your opponent to lock field goals is not handicapping the offense.

One thing that's happening, as jourdan Rodrigue explained, is that the Rams are having to blitz to get pressure which means a linebacker/safety/slot corner is leaving a void in the defense to try and get to the QB. You fix that with a front four that doesn't need blitzing to win. If you can get pressure with four, you can have 7 in coverage.

Your last part is the key though. We need corners who diagnose quicker.

Yes, I agree the D scheme works better with a great pass rush but let's be honest, if you can rush the passer with only "4" guys the scheme you are running has a better chance of success regardless what that scheme is.

The issue is that it's not that easy to to do even with an "all world" AD as one of those 4. We have been looking for someone to "step up" next to AD but we haven't found anyone who can do it consistently for a few years now.

Having said that, playing 8-10 yards off all the time and back peddling at the snap makes things too easy (at least between the 20's) on the offense to do whatever they want as long as they do it in less than 2 seconds which is exactly what we have been seeing.

I agree with Gator. I don't care who you get as a pass rusher, if he has to get there in less than 2 seconds it's almost impossible to do. Even the BEST pass rushers would have trouble getting there that fast.

I agree the scheme is a top 5 in the red zone but that is because the field is so much shorter making things easier to defend. You no longer have to worry about getting beat deep making it easier to play the "route\WR". I guess the bottom line is "stopping" them from scoring or holding them to a FG so there is that.

I still say we need to mix it up more between the 20's to help our pass rush get there. We need to make QB's hold that ball for just a second or two longer and a few well designed "disguises" should do that. Player so soft does just the opposite.



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  I keep hearing talk of getting an Edge Rusher. What's the point??

Ramgator339January 05, 2023 05:14AM

  Some flaws in this logic.

Ram_Ruler226January 05, 2023 05:23AM

  Agree with some of this

Ramsdude189January 05, 2023 05:58AM

  Re: Agree with some of this

Ram_Ruler178January 05, 2023 11:34AM

  your secondary is only as good as your pass rush

JoeMad93January 05, 2023 08:44AM

  Agreed

Ramsdude122January 05, 2023 08:48AM

  Thing is....With us, we often get pressure but......

Ramgator87January 05, 2023 09:45AM

  Addition by subtraction

Ridgewood Ram128January 05, 2023 11:37AM

  I guess you missed the Super Bowl run in 2021 huh???

Rampage2K-63January 05, 2023 11:49AM

  I dunno about being happy about Von

Ram_Ruler63January 05, 2023 11:59AM

  Re: I dunno about being happy about Von

Rampage2K-217January 05, 2023 12:01PM

  Re: I dunno about being happy about Von

Ram_Ruler46January 05, 2023 12:02PM

  agree nm

21Dog53January 05, 2023 12:07PM

  Scheme certainly plays a part.

Ramgator49January 05, 2023 01:34PM

  Re: I guess you missed the Super Bowl run in 2021 huh???

Rams43158January 05, 2023 12:13PM

  Sure....IF we can land another Miller. Also...

Ramgator45January 05, 2023 01:28PM

  Yup! 2 seconds goes by pretty quick! lol

Ramsdude35January 05, 2023 01:58PM

  Re: Sure....IF we can land another Miller. Also...

ramBRO67January 05, 2023 02:51PM

  Re: Sure....IF we can land another Miller. Also...

Ram_Ruler43January 05, 2023 03:03PM

  That's irrelevant to my point!!

Ramgator49January 05, 2023 03:14PM

  It's very simple.

Ramgator54January 05, 2023 03:11PM

  Miller is a glaring issue I have with the NFL........ LOYALTY!

Ramgator49January 05, 2023 01:45PM

  I don't blame Miller or any player for that matter

BigGame81156January 05, 2023 03:10PM

  OK. I get the PPG argument... How it's not scheme. etc etc.... Answer this..

Ramgator45January 05, 2023 03:23PM

  Re: OK. I get the PPG argument... How it's not scheme. etc etc.... Answer this..

ramBRO62January 05, 2023 04:04PM

  Re: OK. I get the PPG argument... How it's not scheme. etc etc.... Answer this..

Ram_Ruler57January 05, 2023 04:48PM