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Re: Ravens actually went against the analytics

December 19, 2021 04:26PM
If the expected chance to win in overtime exceeds the chance to convert the 2pointer than going for the 2 point conversion was definitely the wrong play.

I'm a poker player so I think of all my life decisions in terms of expected value. Which option among my available choices maximizes my value basically.

I'm not sure how they calculated the chance to convert or chance to win in overtime. However, Huntley versus Rodgers really makes me want to shorten the game. The key I think is how good of a two point conversion play do you have? If your coaches identified something they really think will work that matters. Otherwise, I think shortening the game is a generally good idea for the lessor team.

Usually in most games the smaller the sample size the higher the variance of the outcomes. Here the sample size would be plays.

I find analytics very interesting and agree they are a tool. However, no one without analytics ever discusses a decision making framework for their decisions--most of what I hear is momentum, feel, etc. How many investments do you think Buffet and Monger make on feel?

Like most everything in life the application of analytics is complicated. But I liked the decision for the Ravens to go for two. The play they choose was predictable and simplistic.

Thanks for the convo. Always fun.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Analytics strikes again

Ram_Ruler691December 19, 2021 02:28PM

  Re: Analytics strikes again

The_Zone184December 19, 2021 02:29PM

  LOVED the decision but HATED the play.

Ramgator129December 19, 2021 02:31PM

  NO WAY I'd give Rodgers a chance in OT.

Ramgator198December 19, 2021 02:33PM

  Coaches are getting too smart for their own good

Ram_Ruler108December 19, 2021 02:31PM

  Re: Analytics strikes again

Classicalwit122December 19, 2021 02:31PM

  coach is an idiot

Rampage2K-263December 19, 2021 02:32PM

  Re: Analytics strikes again

rampage666117December 19, 2021 02:40PM

  What was their expected chance at that conversion?

Ram_Ruler103December 19, 2021 03:49PM

  Re: What was their expected chance at that conversion?

rampage666163December 19, 2021 04:28PM

  Yep. Absurd.

RockRam110December 19, 2021 02:57PM

  Re: Yep. Absurd.

BerendsenRam96December 19, 2021 03:03PM

  Ravens actually went against the analytics

AlbaNY_Ram181December 19, 2021 04:06PM

  Re: Ravens actually went against the analytics

rampage666179December 19, 2021 04:26PM

  Re: Ravens actually went against the analytics

AlbaNY_Ram187December 20, 2021 10:40AM

  Re: Ravens actually went against the analytics

21Dog185December 20, 2021 01:51PM

  Re: Ravens actually went against the analytics

AlbaNY_Ram221December 20, 2021 04:40PM

  I like the mindset going for 2

Rams_81155December 20, 2021 06:31AM

  Re: I like the mindset going for 2

nicecatchellard170December 20, 2021 07:43AM

  Re: I like the mindset going for 2

NJRam715112December 20, 2021 08:04AM

  Re: I like the mindset going for 2

nicecatchellard100December 20, 2021 08:24AM

  Stupid Harbaugh

Ramboni310December 20, 2021 07:47AM

  Yep. Going for the TD on the very first drive rather than settling for the FG was the difference

NewMexicoRam84December 20, 2021 08:44AM

  They don't trust their defense

JimYoungblood53243December 20, 2021 08:26AM

  Re: They don't trust their defense

nicecatchellard95December 20, 2021 08:29AM

  They may fumble the KOR and you win it right away

JimYoungblood5368December 20, 2021 09:24AM

  Re: They may fumble the KOR and you win it right away

nicecatchellard88December 20, 2021 09:35AM

  You don't play for a tie, you play for OT Attachments

JimYoungblood5385December 20, 2021 09:54AM

  Re: You don't play for a tie, you play for OT

nicecatchellard80December 20, 2021 10:05AM

  There is a huge probablility that you get more than one play

JimYoungblood53199December 20, 2021 10:35AM

  Re: There is a huge probablility that you get more than one play

nicecatchellard218December 20, 2021 01:22PM

  A tie at the end of regulation is not a tie

JimYoungblood53179December 20, 2021 01:26PM

  Re: A tie at the end of regulation is not a tie

nicecatchellard104December 20, 2021 01:47PM

  Wrong

JimYoungblood53103December 20, 2021 04:51PM