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ESPN article on the trade ( the 3rd rounder is 2021, then 1st in 22 & 23)

January 30, 2021 06:01PM
[www.espn.com]

Detroit Lions dealing Matthew Stafford to Los Angeles Rams for Jared Goff, picks, sources say

7:04 PM PT
Michael Rothstein
ESPN Staff Writer

Detroit Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford is heading to the Los Angeles Rams in exchange for quarterback Jared Goff and a multitude of draft picks, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Saturday night.

The Lions will receive a third-round pick in 2021, a first-round pick in 2022 and a first-round pick in 2023 in the exchange of former No. 1 overall picks. The deal cannot be made official until March 17, the start of the new league year.

Following news of the trade, the Rams' Super Bowl odds for the 2021 season moved from +1800 to +1500 at Caesars Sportsbook by William Hill.

It's the first big move made by new Lions general manager Brad Holmes, who was hired earlier this month from the Rams, where he was the director of college scouting. He said during his introductory news conference he wanted to build the team through the draft. Now he'll get extra draft capital to do so.

The Rams traded up from the No. 15 selection to select Goff first overall in the 2016 NFL draft, making a splash in their return to L.A. after 21 seasons in St. Louis. They will not make another first-round selection until 2024.

Goff, who turned 26 in October, leaves L.A. after five seasons, including four under Rams coach Sean McVay, and with a 42-27 record. He made seven winless starts as a rookie under former coach Jeff Fisher before the Rams hired McVay, who was known for his offensive acumen and ability to develop quarterbacks. McVay and Goff flourished in their first two seasons together, winning back-to-back division titles and an NFC championship.

The Rams awarded Goff a four-year, $134 million extension with $110 million guaranteed after he led the Rams to a Super Bowl LIII appearance. However, the offense never appeared the same after a 13-3 loss to the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl as the Rams fell from a top-scoring team to an average unit the past two seasons.

Issues between Goff and McVay became apparent during the 2020 season despite a 10-6 record. After a 23-20 loss to the San Francisco 49ers in Week 12, McVay publicly called out the quarterback for three turnovers and demanded that the issue improve. Over the past two seasons, Goff ranked second in the NFL with 38 turnovers.

Rams' First-Round Drought Continues

Since the Rams selected Jared Goff No. 1 overall in 2016, they will not make a first-round selection through 2023.

RAMS FIRST-ROUND PICKS 2017-23
2017 Traded to Titans
2018 Traded to Patriots
2019 Traded to Falcons
2020 Traded to Jaguars
2021 Traded to Jaguars
2022 Traded to Lions*
2023 Traded to Lions*
*per ESPN's Adam Schefter
-- ESPN Stats & Information

McVay opted to start undrafted free agent backup John Wolford in a wild-card playoff game against the Seattle Seahawks despite Goff telling his coach that he would be ready to play 12 days removed from surgery on his throwing hand thumb. Wolford was forced to leave the game in the first quarter because of a neck injury and Goff, the only available backup, passed for 155 yards and a touchdown in the 30-20 win. After the game, Goff expressed disappointment that he did not start.

A week later, in a divisional playoff against the Green Bay Packers, McVay was forced to start Goff with Wolford sidelined because of his neck. Goff passed for 174 yards and a touchdown in a 32-18 loss.

After the game, when asked if Goff was his quarterback, McVay said, "Yeah, he's our quarterback, right now."

Earlier this week, Rams general manager Les Snead did not provide a public vote of confidence for Goff when asked multiple times about his future with the Rams.

"Moving on from Jared Goff, that's ... the money we've invested in him, that's not easy to overcome," said Snead, who added later that "anything can be done" in a cap-based system.

When asked following Detroit's final game of the 2020 season if he thought it was his final game with the Lions, Stafford said he did not want to get into hypothetical situations. Soon after the season concluded, Stafford went to Lions team president Rod Wood and mentioned a trade might be best for both sides.

Stafford will leave Detroit as the team's all-time leader in every passing category. He is No. 16 all-time in NFL passing yards (45,109) and passing touchdowns (282), No. 18 in attempts (6,224) and No. 14 in completions (3,898). His career passer rating of 89.9 is No. 21 all-time and his 144 interceptions are tied for No. 66 all-time with Joe Flacco and Steve Bartkowski.

He's No. 4 all-time in passing yards per game (273.4) behind just Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees and Andrew Luck, is second all-time behind Luck in attempts per game (37.7) and fourth in completions per game (23.6) behind Brees, Mahomes and Matt Ryan.

Stafford came into the league as the No. 1 overall pick in the 2009 draft out of Georgia and became Detroit's starter immediately. Injuries, including a separated shoulder, hampered his first two seasons in the NFL, but he went on to start all but eight games for Detroit since the start of the 2011 season.

When he had to miss the final eight games of the 2019 season due to fractured bones in his back, it ended a streak of 136 straight starts -- at the time the sixth-longest consecutive starts streak for a quarterback in NFL history.

Stafford has dealt with a multitude of ailments over the years, including injuries to his ribs, ankle and right thumb last season. He also played in 2018 with fractures in his back and a PIP dislocation of the middle finger of his throwing hand in 2016 among other things.

While the Lions never won the NFC North with Stafford as their quarterback, he kept them largely competitive over the past decade as the team's first draft pick after the 0-16 season in 2008. Stafford had eight seasons of 4,000-or-more yards passing and a 5,038-yard season in 2011, when he also threw a career-high 41 touchdowns.

Stafford has thrown at least 20 touchdowns in every full season of his career -- and at least 10 interceptions as well.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Rams Trade for Stafford

IowaRam2440January 30, 2021 05:03PM

  Horrible trade

droopy478January 30, 2021 05:05PM

  Re: Horrible trade

CarolinaRam255January 31, 2021 05:50AM

  Re: Horrible trade...Don't agree.."We Not Me."

oldschoolramfan227January 31, 2021 07:08AM

  +1000 Re: Horrible trade

shepherd18273January 31, 2021 07:33AM

  Re: +1000 Re: Horrible trade

GroundPounder364January 31, 2021 09:40AM

  Re: +1000 Re: Horrible trade>>>NEXT BEST AVAILABLE? Attachments

BumRap262January 31, 2021 10:07AM

  Re: +1000 Re: Horrible trade>>>NEXT BEST AVAILABLE?

no name173January 31, 2021 10:24AM

  Re: +1000 Re: Horrible trade...+100,000 Attachments

BumRap282January 31, 2021 10:22AM

  Ugh

JYB446January 30, 2021 05:06PM

  Re: Ugh

Great Bordeni364January 30, 2021 05:07PM

  Re: Ugh

MamaRAMa363January 30, 2021 05:12PM

  Re: Ugh

no name319January 30, 2021 05:18PM

  Re: Ugh--triple ughh--Stafford IQ question

Steve583January 30, 2021 06:26PM

  Re: Ugh--triple ughh--Stafford IQ question

Ramboni296January 30, 2021 06:35PM

  Marino scored a 16

21Dog195January 31, 2021 04:29AM

  Re: Marino scored a 16

RAMSINCE ARNETT206January 31, 2021 05:56AM

  i would wager Stafford is in the pro bowl before Goff

RamsfanRobLA169January 31, 2021 07:37AM

  I'm done

no name427January 30, 2021 05:06PM

  nope, at a distance

Ram49332January 30, 2021 05:38PM

  Re: I'm done-and me. McVay is disengenuous

Steve315January 30, 2021 06:25PM

  Re: This ain't FUN ?

VANRAM253January 30, 2021 07:05PM

  So you don't like that they have turned the rams into winners?

PHDram265January 30, 2021 07:37PM

  Re: So you don't like that they have turned the rams into winners?

no name177January 31, 2021 10:32AM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

MamaRAMa377January 30, 2021 05:08PM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

Classicalwit313January 30, 2021 05:10PM

  Goff and McVays relationship must have soured big time..............nm

IowaRam306January 30, 2021 05:14PM

  Re: Goff and McVays relationship must have soured big time..............nm

PHDram305January 30, 2021 05:19PM

  Re: Goff and McVays relationship must have soured big time..............nm

MamaRAMa312January 30, 2021 05:19PM

  this move may haunt this franchise for a decade

Ram49293January 30, 2021 05:41PM

  At some point you need 1st round choices

3030253January 30, 2021 05:50PM

  they do have 1st Round Picks: Stafford and Ramsey . . .

stlramz283January 30, 2021 09:27PM

  Re: they do have 1st Round Picks: Stafford and Ramsey . . .

no name230January 31, 2021 10:34AM

  Re: At some point you need 1st round choices

dzrams189January 30, 2021 09:29PM

  He's 32.

droopy352January 30, 2021 05:10PM

  Stafford will be 33 next Sunday. I'm trying to remind myself

Rams Junkie296January 30, 2021 06:31PM

  Re: Stafford will be 33 next Sunday. I'm trying to remind myself

Rams43252January 30, 2021 06:51PM

  Re: Stafford will be 33 next Sunday. I'm trying to remind myself

OahuRam266January 30, 2021 07:27PM

  Re: Stafford will be 33 next Sunday. I'm trying to remind myself

AlbaNY_Ram198January 31, 2021 03:52AM

  Re: Stafford will be 33 next Sunday. I'm trying to remind myself

Rams Junkie221January 30, 2021 10:39PM

  Re: Stafford will be 33 next Sunday. I'm trying to remind myself

JYB176January 31, 2021 06:00AM

  Re: He's 32.

CarolinaRam199January 31, 2021 05:52AM

  Age is of no consequence.

RockRam317January 31, 2021 10:18AM

  Wilson turns 33 this year too, Rodgers 38

max194January 31, 2021 06:00AM

  He's got 5 years easy and will feel reborn

stlramz181January 31, 2021 07:37AM

  Nothing like a stlramz post to brighten my day. :) (nm)

JamesJM165January 31, 2021 07:41AM

  Re: +1

leafnose168January 31, 2021 08:07AM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

IowaRam346January 30, 2021 05:12PM

  Horrible

3030323January 30, 2021 05:19PM

  I've always really liked Stafford

IowaRam346January 30, 2021 05:21PM

  Ditto. (nm)

3030365January 30, 2021 05:24PM

  me too, exactly NM

Ram49227January 30, 2021 05:46PM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

no name317January 30, 2021 05:13PM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

MamaRAMa302January 30, 2021 05:18PM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

Ekern55232January 30, 2021 07:20PM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

GroundPounder272January 30, 2021 05:13PM

  That's hilarious.

Suh-weet!364January 30, 2021 05:15PM

  Re: That's hilarious.

headslapper278January 30, 2021 05:18PM

  I Like Stafford...Way Better Than Goff

ramBRO320January 30, 2021 05:17PM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

Oakville Tim291January 30, 2021 05:18PM

  This feels like a betrayal

Drew2839317January 30, 2021 05:19PM

  Re: This feels like a betrayal

Rampage2K-287January 30, 2021 05:45PM

  Indeed it does. nm

Drew2839345January 30, 2021 05:52PM

  I'm guessing this is NOT what Jalen had in mind???

Oakville Tim297January 30, 2021 05:19PM

  it's all about the Super Bowl

L.A.Rams306January 30, 2021 05:29PM

  Re: it's all about the Super Bowl

ramBRO288January 30, 2021 05:34PM

  I think you are right.

stlramz196January 30, 2021 09:14PM

  I wonder what this does to our salary cap

IowaRam303January 30, 2021 05:30PM

  Don't quote me

3030381January 30, 2021 05:37PM

  Re: Can't do that

AlbaNY_Ram192January 31, 2021 03:58AM

  Cowherd on the Trade

RamBill691January 30, 2021 05:31PM

  Re: Cowherd on the Trade

MamaRAMa284January 30, 2021 06:30PM

  Re: Cowherd on the Trade

Rams43262January 30, 2021 06:53PM

  Can cut after one year for only $6 million dead

headslapper340January 30, 2021 05:32PM

  So you want to trade goff and 2 1s

PHDram195January 30, 2021 10:05PM

  Re: Can cut after one year for only $6 million dead

MOBSQUAD99170January 31, 2021 09:04AM

  wow!!! Well, now McSnead better win Super Bowl soon at least

Rampage2K-325January 30, 2021 05:37PM

  Agree with Silver

Ram49338January 30, 2021 05:43PM

  Re: Agree with Silver

Rampage2K-317January 30, 2021 05:48PM

  Re: The Price ??

leafnose174January 31, 2021 06:47AM

  Re: wow!!! Well, now McSnead better win Super Bowl soon at least

Killrazor181January 31, 2021 12:00AM

  Re: Wish nothing but the best

leafnose175January 31, 2021 07:11AM

  Rams were forced to do something with Goff

BigGame81520January 30, 2021 05:38PM

  I see it from a money standpoint

Drew2839306January 30, 2021 05:57PM

  Re: I see it from a money standpoint

ramBRO254January 30, 2021 06:02PM

  True

Drew2839246January 30, 2021 06:11PM

  Re: True

Rams43250January 30, 2021 06:56PM

  yeah, we'll see 43. nm

Drew2839200January 30, 2021 06:57PM

  Re: Is that actually obvious?

dzrams210January 30, 2021 09:25PM

  It's possible

Drew2839307January 31, 2021 07:33AM

  Re: It's possible

dzrams164January 31, 2021 10:45AM

  Re: It's possible

Drew2839176January 31, 2021 12:04PM

  Well, the natives are definitely restless...

Rams43309January 30, 2021 05:46PM

  You just had to bring up the niners and Watson....nm

Drew2839207January 30, 2021 05:59PM

  Jeez. Panic takes over again. As though Watson had done something

RockRam165January 31, 2021 08:03AM

  Sure you're not talking about Lamar Jackson? nm

Drew2839167January 31, 2021 08:15AM

  14 million each?

headslapper315January 30, 2021 05:58PM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford Attachments

IowaRam336January 30, 2021 05:58PM

  Is Wolford giving up #9 ? (nm)

BigGame81357January 30, 2021 05:59PM

  Good question!

3030226January 30, 2021 06:03PM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

nicecatchellard334January 30, 2021 06:01PM

  ESPN article on the trade ( the 3rd rounder is 2021, then 1st in 22 & 23)

Rams Junkie383January 30, 2021 06:01PM

  I LOVE IT Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

rfip the second409January 30, 2021 06:09PM

  Re: I LOVE IT Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

Paco70263January 30, 2021 07:44PM

  Marvin Jones Re: I LOVE IT Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

rfip the second279January 31, 2021 03:40AM

  Re: Jones or Gollaway....I'm all good with the trade.

oldschoolramfan179January 31, 2021 06:57AM

  Re: I LOVE IT Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

BerendsenRam336January 30, 2021 09:23PM

  I feel sorry for those who have #16 jerseys

NewMexicoRam400January 30, 2021 06:31PM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

ABQRam427January 30, 2021 06:59PM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

OahuRam369January 30, 2021 07:29PM

  I'm all in

merlin267January 30, 2021 07:58PM

  Re: I'm all in

Anonymous User244January 30, 2021 08:02PM

  me too...

Atlantic Ram209January 30, 2021 08:20PM

  Re: WOW! Steep price...nm

dzrams212January 30, 2021 08:26PM

  Interesting tweet...

Rams43321January 30, 2021 09:24PM

  But who is responsible for that Goff contract to begin with?

dodgerram201January 31, 2021 12:11AM

  7 straight years without a first round pick...

SeattleRam201January 30, 2021 10:07PM

  Re: 7 straight years without a first round pick...

Ekern55210January 30, 2021 10:26PM

  There is a god

Stafford9278January 30, 2021 11:21PM

  Re: There is a god

zn234January 31, 2021 04:33AM

  Re: There is a god....It's a Win, Win Trade IMHO.....

oldschoolramfan192January 31, 2021 07:18AM

  Remember we are talking about the Lions

Stafford9275January 31, 2021 07:23AM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

Shaky263January 31, 2021 02:56AM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

moklerman195January 31, 2021 07:26AM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

pmill66201January 31, 2021 06:41AM

  Check this out...

Rams43219January 31, 2021 07:54AM

  Any mention of Stafford on the Rams website ?

IowaRam184January 31, 2021 09:19AM

  Re: Rams Trade for Stafford

Classicalwit179January 31, 2021 10:24AM