December 30, 2020 09:37AM
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zn
People who try the "too categorical" take are not very useful or helpful.

We know there are games where there was heavy pressure and Goff came through and they won.

Anyone who tries the "absolutist" version is just leaving facts out.

Examples, using PRF numbers.

2018, GB game: 20 pressures (Rams won)
2018, KC game, 21 pressures (Rams won)
2018, NFC title game, 10 pressures (Rams won)
2019, Tampa game, 20 pressures (Rams lost)
2020, Arizona game, 16 pressures (Rams won)
2020, 2nd Seattle game, 17 pressures (Rams lost)

In 2019 the threshold number was 6-8 pressures: they could only win a few of those, but they didn't lose all of them.

Compare 2019 and 2020 on 6-8 pressures.

In 2019, when the qb was pressured 6-8 times, the Rams went 3-4. 43.8% wins

In 2020, same range of pressures, Rams went 5-3. 62.5% wins.



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All that list suggests to me is that pressures don't really correlate to wins and losses. You seem to be suggesting that the Seattle game just couldn't be won with that many pressures but your list here shows that it it's very possible.

I don't even know how valuable the "pressure" number is. Of pressure, hits and sacks, I'd say it was the least important.
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  Re: Dan Orlosky - Goff holding the Rams back

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  Re: Dan Orlosky - Goff holding the Rams back

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  thx man! nm

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  Re: Dan Orlosky - Goff holding the Rams back

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  Re: FirstTake: Jared Goff Under Pressure

moklerman197December 29, 2020 08:47PM

  Don't any of these former players no anything about QB's under pressure

promomasterj127December 30, 2020 10:13AM

  again, the ommissions ... the too categorical take on this don't work

zn162December 30, 2020 08:49AM

  Re: again, the ommissions ... the too categorical take on this don't work

moklerman149December 30, 2020 09:37AM

  Goff is 26th in passer rating

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