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Re: the experiment is a failure.

December 24, 2020 10:00AM
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spagsbacker
I don't see any of the trades for 1st rounders working out. In fact, the trades of Mack, Tunsil have allowed those teams to rebuild much quicker than expected. Even the Jags are developing a deep team though it is not yet reflected in their record. They will eventually be tough. We have already traded Cooks....wouldnt you be happier with C Ridley or DJ Moore still on a cheap contract? I don't even think Snead's record on mid rd guys is all that great. We have found about the same # of gems as most teams. Same number of misses as well. Just because NE whiffed on Wynn and Atlanta on McGrady doesn't mean we win the Ramsey trade as this article seems to argue. What if we drafted Darius Leonard and Dalton Risner...2 guys taken after the two mentioned. And every week it becomes more apparent that moving up to take Goff was not the right move. Neither was extending him. This is also the GM that traded a 2nd to move up to get T Austin, instead of staying put and taking D Hopkins. Our team has a weak O Line and weak Linebackers with very little depth and upcoming salary issues given a few bloated contracts. Ill never understand the unjustified love for Snead. If you evaluate Snead objectively, its hard to argue he is so wonderful.

What do you think of the article's rationale for trading for Ramsey? It's true that maybe we would have had more success with those 2 picks but I thought the rationale was compelling. Not many teams, maybe no teams, have 2 dominant players on defense.

It's hard to engage with you on the Snead mid-round record because you've never supported your stance with facts despite being asked. I'm still curious about who you feel is a mid-round hit or miss for Snead and the percentage of hits and misses from other teams.

Without some working definition of what constitutes a hit or miss and that percentage for other GMs, anyone can make any claim and it couldn't be challenged. I could say, "Snead is far superior than every other GM," and no one would be able to prove otherwise or even have a rational discussion on it.

You talk about evaluating Snead objectively but have never been able to provide what "objective" measures you are using and how other GMs stack up.

I think it would be a Very interesting conversation.
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