Re: I don't interpret Kurt's comments as very critical...not at all

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Eli never broke a season with a 100+ QB rating, but he won a couple Super Bowls..... Goff has already shown to be much better than Eli, but he doesn't have to be, to just win games.....

Don't turn the ball over and don't try to do too much and we will win a lot of games with Goff imo

Eli is a good example of the non-elite QB who wins a SB. But he had one special quality: he was super clutch.

His performances would go up in the playoffs and SB. He played above his normal level. If not for that, he would never have won anything.

If not for that, I wouldn't build a team around Eli.

Overall, trying to win with a non-elite type - someone where all you're asking is for them to not turn the ball over or try to do too much - is too hard.

Well then the thing to do is just grab one of the many always available elite types.

That's one take away.

Another is where you pick up a Nick Foles or Jameis Winston type for $5 - $8M and/or bring in a QB on a rookie contract instead of paying $35M for the average, non-elite starter.

With the cost of QBs, I'm surprised teams aren't drafting them every year.

Those guys aren't winning though.

And it's a matter of opinion that Goff "is average," an opinion I don't share.

My view at least avoids the deeper problem, which is that Rams coaches and management somehow didn't recognize the guy they were extending on a typical qb 2nd contract was only "average." That's a pretty monumental mistake, and the same coaches and management people are going to be around for a while.


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The Rams have made some pretty monumental mistakes on extensions in the recent past so avoiding that uncomfortable possibility is not a comfort to me.

Their philosophy on extensions is the one and only big issue I have with current Rams management.

They haven't made mistakes plural on extensions. Cook got what regular starting WRs were getting his year. Watkins and Evans got the same that year. What waylaid Cooks was the 2019 injuries. Gurley's extension turned out to be a problem. Not Donald's. IMO not Goff's either. Not Ramsey--locking up Donald and Ramsey together allows them to keep adding other parts to what will always be a dynamic defense.

I don't think since I started following the Rams that so many people were ever so down on a winning team. It's unusual.

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Gurley's extension was a big mistake. Should not have been done. You already should be careful with giving RBs large 2nd contracts but definitely shouldn't be done early after year 3.

Ogletree - Definite mistake on his extension that they, fortunately, were able to bail out of.

Goff's was done too early IMO. I understand we disagree on how good he is. If he's above-average like you feel, it's good we signed him. If he turns out average as I think, the extension will ultimately be a mistake. Either way, it was done too early IMO.

Havenstein - His extension hasn't been terrible because this year he is good which makes up for him being horrible last year. But in general, I don't think signing an average to slightly above average RT is a good decision. That position is one of the easiest to replace.

Tavon Austin - His extension was a mistake. Two of the major players in giving that extension are still in charge.

Janoris Jenkins - Low balled him and franchised Trumaine twice. That was a mistake in not extending.

I'm actually a big fan of Rams management but over the years, there have been several big decisions relating to extensions that I believe turned out badly and were not good decisions at the time they were made. I haven't liked at least half of their decisions relating to extensions.

Oh, I forgot...they had the opportunity to sign Watkins for $16M. He wanted to stay a Rams. Instead, they let him go, trade a 1st for Cooks and give him $17M. Didn't agree with that decision then and in hindsight, I still don't think it was a good one.



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