November 30, 2020 03:34PM
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nicecatchellard
As bad as it hurt all of us to see warner go bulger straight outplayed him. Warner looked like a shell of himself after the injury. We all rejoiced when he got his mojo back with arizona.
I don't think it was an apples to apples situation though. Yes, Bulger was the QB when the Rams got back on track but IMO, it was clearly because they went back to featuring Faulk and letting Bulger just play complimentary QB. Faulk was much more responsible for that 5-0 run in '02 even though Bulger put up good numbers.

Warner was his own worst enemy and Martz compounded the problems. Warner was hurt and trying to play through injuries because he, IMO, sensed that he was losing his grasp on the starting job. Which in retrospect, I think he was. More and more responsibility was being put on Warner and I think Warner was too enamored with passing too much and a variety of things were putting Warner and Martz at odds. I think Warner was audibling out of Martz plays so Martz started to call pass heavy games that were different for Warner than they were for Bulger. That Martz was setting Warner up for failure. Love Martz but I think he was vindictive enough to do that.

So, Warner was struggling through some things and Martz was not only not helping Warner by reeling him in, he was actually leaving him hung out to dry. Warner is a class act but I don't know for sure that he didn't develop an attitude of some kind and he was ostracized for whatever reason(s). Martz has been quoted as saying that he regrets how things went and how he handled them so I assume Warner wasn't too much of a jerk.

Warner wasn't playing well but much like Martz was later undermined himself, the Rams didn't give him time to heal. They didn't give him the assurance that his time away wouldn't cost him his job. More importantly, they didn't explore all avenues to solve Warner's injury.
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  Run Goff outta town like you did Warner

napoli588November 30, 2020 12:51PM

  Re: So inconsistent is ok?...nm

dzrams232November 30, 2020 01:03PM

  I think inconsistent is ok..

sstrams139November 30, 2020 02:18PM

  Re: Right...there is usually a reason for that...

dzrams128November 30, 2020 03:04PM

  Re: Run Goff outta town like you did Warner

stlrams13154November 30, 2020 01:04PM

  I don't think any of us have the power to do that.

JamesJM130November 30, 2020 01:08PM

  Re: Run Goff outta town like you did Warner

moklerman133November 30, 2020 01:51PM

  Re: Run Goff outta town like you did Warner

nicecatchellard116November 30, 2020 01:54PM

  Re: Run Goff outta town like you did Warner

moklerman120November 30, 2020 03:34PM

  an elite defense that gave him the ball 3 times and the 4th time scored a TD

Speed_Kills192November 30, 2020 02:06PM

  Please don't let Defense off the hook Speed

BumRap258November 30, 2020 02:33PM

  OMG buddy c'mon

Speed_Kills152November 30, 2020 02:41PM

  "what play did he make that changed or influenced the score in this game?"

sstrams206November 30, 2020 02:47PM

  well I meant in the Rams favor of course sir lol nm

Speed_Kills154November 30, 2020 02:50PM

  I know, man, but I was riding a technicality! lol nm

sstrams111November 30, 2020 02:51PM

  Re: Speaking of Straws

BumRap202November 30, 2020 03:13PM

  Re: Speaking of Straws

moklerman130November 30, 2020 03:41PM

  Again

NewMexicoRam289November 30, 2020 04:11PM

  Re: Again

Rampage2K-241November 30, 2020 04:57PM

  Re: Again

moklerman127November 30, 2020 05:01PM

  Re: OMG buddy c'mon...of course you can't see that

Rampage2K-157November 30, 2020 04:31PM

  Re: Run Goff outta town like you did Warner

Rampage2K-125November 30, 2020 05:30PM

  Re: Run Goff outta town like you did Warner

moklerman224November 30, 2020 05:39PM

  Re: Run Goff outta town like you did Warner

Rampage2K-118November 30, 2020 05:50PM

  Re: Run Goff outta town like you did Warner

moklerman106November 30, 2020 06:13PM

  Re: Run Goff outta town like you did Warner

Classicalwit154November 30, 2020 08:39PM

  In all this Goff talk......

NewMexicoRam177November 30, 2020 02:32PM

  Re: In all this Goff talk......Not a bad assessment

BumRap151November 30, 2020 02:39PM

  absolutely nm

Speed_Kills127November 30, 2020 03:05PM

  Warner was unplayable at that time

Rams_81156December 01, 2020 04:53AM