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Re: who predicted that

November 30, 2020 02:34AM
Cousins had question marks but he was also playing for a dysfunctional team on the decline. I would guess that his stock was much higher than Goff's is right now. When he sustained the pro-bowl level of play after losing McVay as his OC, I think that really resonated with those in the know. His surroundings slowly eroded in Washington and he basically had no weapons in '17. He also had to deal with a line that gave up 41 sacks(7.1%). By comparison, Goff has been sacked this year 15 times(3.6%).

Sidenote, looking at the sack % numbers, one might be surprised to find out that last year's...what is the term? Massively catastrophic? Historically incohesive? Whatever the term, the '19 OL that was supposedly a lot worse than it's numbers, was giving up a sack % LOWER than this year's group which is supposedly so much better. I know, I'm off on a tangent but it still bugs me that Goff's struggles last year were supposedly because the OL was so bad that no QB could be productive behind them. 3.6% this year, 3.3% last year. Cousins 7.1% in '17.

So, I really don't see how Goff measures up '19 and '20 to what Cousins did in '17 and '16. It would be great if '17/'18 Goff rematerialized but does anyone really think that's going to happen? He isn't injured, isn't old, hasn't lost all of his weapons or his coach or the scheme. I don't see how we can view this as anything other than the training wheels being taken away and Goff not being able to ride without them. But, maybe a team like the Jaguars or Bengals if Joe's slow to recover or Jets as a placeholder will give Goff a shot but I'm skeptical of him being taken by a good team that's looking to get over the top. And if Goff is on a bad team, I don't expect him to rise above it all.
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  I Think McVay moves on from Goff this offseason

ferragamo791198November 29, 2020 03:10PM

  Re: I get that feeling too...

dzrams290November 29, 2020 03:14PM

  Like Bones and Phillips

ferragamo79471November 29, 2020 03:17PM

  I dunno if they'll move on, but..

sstrams325November 29, 2020 03:15PM

  Re: I dunno if they'll move on, but..

oldmanram199November 30, 2020 04:43AM

  Re: I Think McVay moves on from Goff this offseason...how?

Rampage2K-320November 29, 2020 03:16PM

  Focus on Goff's game...

max783November 29, 2020 03:19PM

  Maybe

Hazlet Hacksaw272November 29, 2020 03:20PM

  Re: Maybe

moklerman348November 29, 2020 04:30PM

  Works both ways...

sacram250November 29, 2020 04:40PM

  Re: Works both ways...

moklerman202November 29, 2020 04:48PM

  Not blame

Hazlet Hacksaw212November 29, 2020 04:51PM

  Re: Not blame

moklerman337November 29, 2020 04:59PM

  Sure...

sacram265November 29, 2020 05:02PM

  Agree

Hazlet Hacksaw492November 29, 2020 04:48PM

  great points nm

21Dog181November 29, 2020 04:52PM

  Re: Works both ways...

Rampage2K-140November 29, 2020 04:55PM

  Re: Works both ways...

moklerman137November 29, 2020 05:02PM

  "Goff has earned the criticism he's getting"

73Ram387November 30, 2020 04:49AM

  Re: Focus on Goff's game...

BerendsenRam200November 29, 2020 04:59PM

  Absolutely!

Crazylegs185November 30, 2020 03:52AM

  100% correct

Speed_Kills165November 29, 2020 05:23PM

  problem is too inconsistent

ferragamo79174November 29, 2020 03:20PM

  Re: He's very inconsistent...

dzrams172November 29, 2020 03:26PM

  Re: I Think McVay moves on from Goff this offseason...how?

Ohiorams276November 29, 2020 06:05PM

  Very much doubt, because I don't see how he can... BUT...

JamesJM203November 29, 2020 03:16PM

  no way too much money at stake

Hazlet Hacksaw202November 29, 2020 03:19PM

  Yeah, I don't understand that stuff well... but...

JamesJM218November 29, 2020 03:23PM

  there are going to be FA QBs availble and others hitting the market plus a great draft

Speed_Kills322November 29, 2020 05:28PM

  I just don't know how that is possible

BigGame81200November 29, 2020 03:22PM

  Sure seems we've dug ourselves a big hole doesn't it?

JamesJM201November 29, 2020 03:24PM

  and cap likely decreasing too nm

Speed_Kills153November 29, 2020 05:33PM

  Thinking the same thing

NewMexicoRam298November 29, 2020 04:19PM

  Re: I Think McVay moves on from Goff this offseason

no name241November 29, 2020 04:24PM

  sign Dak

ferragamo79344November 29, 2020 04:26PM

  Re: He's tradeable...

dzrams227November 29, 2020 04:40PM

  Re: He's tradeable...

Speed_Kills217November 29, 2020 05:36PM

  Re: He's tradeable...

moklerman330November 29, 2020 05:47PM

  Well, in that line of thought....

JamesJM266November 29, 2020 05:59PM

  trade Goff for Haskins or Darnold

Speed_Kills218November 29, 2020 06:05PM

  Haskins?

PHDram210November 29, 2020 06:07PM

  Re: Haskins?

moklerman184November 29, 2020 06:14PM

  Re: Haskins?

NJRam715140November 30, 2020 04:41AM

  Re: Haskins was drafted on the first round in 2019

Speed_Kills192November 29, 2020 06:22PM

  Re: Haskins was drafted on the first round in 2019

moklerman147November 29, 2020 06:29PM

  could be

Speed_Kills335November 29, 2020 06:32PM

  Re: could be

moklerman280November 29, 2020 06:54PM

  I would love them to get Darnold

Speed_Kills143November 29, 2020 07:55PM

  Re: I would love them to get Darnold

NJRam715173November 30, 2020 04:40AM

  If thats the standard

PHDram196November 29, 2020 06:44PM

  Re: If thats the standard

Speed_Kills179November 29, 2020 07:51PM

  insulted?

PHDram148November 30, 2020 04:26AM

  yup agreed nm

Speed_Kills213November 30, 2020 07:30AM

  Re: Well, in that line of thought....

moklerman151November 29, 2020 06:09PM

  Re: He's tradeable...

dzrams143November 29, 2020 06:11PM

  Re: He's tradeable...

moklerman135November 29, 2020 06:20PM

  Re: Gotta strongly disagree with that characterization...

dzrams154November 29, 2020 07:27PM

  With ya, definitely seen as a starter (nm)

JamesJM170November 29, 2020 07:29PM

  who would take him

Speed_Kills145November 29, 2020 08:00PM

  Re: Same was said about Cousins....

dzrams360November 29, 2020 08:09PM

  who predicted that

Speed_Kills127November 29, 2020 08:21PM

  Re: who predicted that

moklerman138November 30, 2020 02:34AM

  Re: Rams fans - i.e. Cooks detractors - said Cooks wasn't tradeable...

dzrams138November 29, 2020 07:32PM

  yeah I just disagree there

Speed_Kills391November 29, 2020 08:02PM

  Re: Nah, I don't hear non-flattering things every week from the announcers...

dzrams355November 29, 2020 08:13PM

  yeah we disagree for sure

Speed_Kills132November 29, 2020 08:19PM

  Re: You know who I can see doing it?

dzrams143November 29, 2020 08:26PM

  only if the Rams cut him

Speed_Kills167November 29, 2020 08:28PM

  Re: Nah, I don't hear non-flattering things every week from the announcers...

Rams43318November 30, 2020 08:22AM

  Re: I Think McVay moves on from Goff this offseason

BerendsenRam222November 29, 2020 04:25PM

  OR.... Simply pull his ass!

Ramgator158November 29, 2020 04:28PM

  Give up a 2nd rounder plus another high pick in 2022

BigGame81214November 29, 2020 04:52PM

  Yeah, I think they've been having that conversation for a while

Drew2839217November 29, 2020 05:24PM

  Albany help us understand how a trade of Goff would work

Speed_Kills165November 29, 2020 05:32PM

  Except Demoff said we’re very lucky to have Goff

max202November 29, 2020 06:23PM

  Re: He's not going to force anything....

dzrams382November 29, 2020 07:51PM

  Re: Albany help us understand how a trade of Goff would work Attachments

AlbaNY_Ram191November 30, 2020 04:31AM

  Re: Albany, they would save $12.4M in a trade...

dzrams132November 30, 2020 06:44AM

  Re:Yup. I blew that one .... Attachments

AlbaNY_Ram169November 30, 2020 07:34AM

  one quick word

zn241November 29, 2020 07:39PM

  Re: one quick word

moklerman148November 30, 2020 03:25AM

  Yup, post-Gurley Goff is bad

max191November 30, 2020 03:38AM

  Re: Yup, post-Gurley Goff is bad

moklerman371November 30, 2020 03:54AM

  Re: I Think McVay moves on: 34 million reasons for 'no way'

Steve186November 30, 2020 12:17AM

  Yup... it's possible... (nm)

JamesJM354November 30, 2020 03:07AM