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also an older point

November 07, 2020 06:14PM
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Goff is gonna see similar defenses to what he saw in Miami going forward. They are gonna attack him until he beats them. And saying well he has beaten defense that pressured him before dozens mean much when team keep pressuring him and he caves like he did in Miami.

That's one take. And of course what happens is, through experience, as we've seen, they--the Goff/McVay combo--get better at handling a particular kind of defensive attack.

Your take I think is based on the idea that Goff is just always going to crack under heavy pressure. And that's what's too categorical and absolute. Two games that immediately come to mind are the 2018 championship game in New Orleans, where he was pressured 9 times. Then the 2nd SF game last year where he was pressure 12 times, but it was the defense that lost that game.

In Miami he was pressured 10 times.

There's only one season where the Goff/McVay Rams almost always lost when facing heavy pressure, and that was 2019. But then 2019 added to the issue with a problem OL.

I am counting heavy pressure is as 7 or more. In 2019, Rams went 2-6 when getting pressured 7 or more times.

In 2018, Rams went 5-3 when getting pressure 7 or more times. That includes beating Green Bay in spite of being pressured 20 times, and beating KC on the famous Monday game, where the Rams were pressured 21 times.

So the story is just not this simple, categorical, absolute, consistent negative. It's just not. The facts won't bear that out.


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Also (I meant to bring this up). McVay did not say what you took him to be saying about "urgency and preparation." You somehow misconstrued that to be an indictment of Goff. Truth is, if they have a starting qb who does not have the normal urgency and doesn't do the normal preparation you expect from that position, then--you are idiots for signing him to a big 2nd contract.

You honestly believe that McV and Snead would do that? Would sign a qb who is, as you put it, lazy and stupid? I mean...c'mon.

All McVay says in that moment is this. Farr asks him what can a qb do to overcome a game like that going forward. What's the best thing he can do next practice after a game like that. McVay says urgency, preparation...and an encouraged demeanor. He was just saying you set out to put things like that behind you through work. That is NOT the same as saying "I know we were stupid to sign a qb who doesn't prepare but what can you do, it's too late now."
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  Rich Hammond on Rams

max676November 07, 2020 04:00AM

  Re: a bunch of excuse making

Speed_Kills292November 07, 2020 04:31AM

  Way too simplistic...

max174November 07, 2020 07:55AM

  Re: a couple of things

Speed_Kills247November 07, 2020 09:11AM

  Re: Way too simplistic.

BeachBoy279November 07, 2020 09:26AM

  Its the same problem

Atlantic Ram125November 07, 2020 09:53AM

  Re: Its the same problem

max130November 07, 2020 10:15AM

  people can get too absolute and categorical about this stuff sometimes

zn152November 07, 2020 10:19AM

  Re: people can get too absolute and categorical about this stuff sometimes

max129November 07, 2020 04:20PM

  Re: people can get too absolute and categorical about this stuff sometimes

zn289November 07, 2020 05:34PM

  also an older point

zn167November 07, 2020 06:14PM

  Re: a bunch of excuse making

Classicalwit152November 07, 2020 10:42AM

  Re: a bunch of excuse making

no name179November 08, 2020 03:31AM

  Re: do me a favor read what I say

Speed_Kills125November 08, 2020 04:08AM

  Re: do me a favor read what I say

no name134November 08, 2020 07:23AM

  Re: do me a favor read what I say

Speed_Kills120November 08, 2020 07:44AM