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Re: A couple of things

October 06, 2020 04:32PM
I think this article does a much better job at explaining the impact of a true deep threat. It even uses Cooks as an example in Houston


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Totally get what you say below. Certainly reasonable take

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AlbaNY_Ram
"... running Cooks on a post or fly pattern is different then sending Kupp or Everett for example on the same route." Yeah, I do realize that. Which is why I used Woods in my question, not Kupp or Everett!!

That being said, when Kupp or Evertt go deep they do (at least sometimes) take two defenders with them. Check out the video below that Ohiorams posted a while ago.

The play at the 1:27 mark shows Everett running a deep route. Both #27 (RCB ) and #25 (S) go deep with him, helping to set up the pass to Woods in the flat. And on the play that starts at 5:22, Kupp runs a 20 yard pattern into the endzone, again taking #27 (RCB ) and #25 (S) into the endzone with him, helping to set up another pass in the flat to Woods. Each time they took two defenders with them. That's all Cooks would have taken, right? Maybe a yard or 2 farther down the field, but the point is both defenders were effectively removed from the play. So it seems like the same net effect: 1 WR occupies 2 DBs who never get back to the actual play.

As to your real question: "Why are the Rams not stretching the field through 4 weeks. Why do you think that is?" It is quite possible that McVay simply adapts his offense to the players he has. Maybe he would prefer a 4.40 guy, but regardless ... he doesn't have one. (Sidebar: the Rams could have drafted a burner if they wanted one: Quez Watkins (4.35) was the 200th pick in the 2020 draft. Darnell Mooney (4.38) went 173rd. Antonio Gibson and Devin Duvernay (both 4.39) went 66th and 92nd, respectively. Thoughts on why the Rams didn't snag one of these guys?)

So he dials back on the deep stuff and dials up the plays that take advantage of what he does have. Which to me seem to be guys who run great routes (Woods, Kupp, Johnson) or at least really good routes (Jefferson, Everett, Higbee). The fact that they are all plus blockers in the open field for their positions feeds into the scheme, too, by designing routes where guys can block for each other after the catch.

I'm not going to break down the X's and O's simply because I can't, but I can look at the stats: Goff is tied for 3rd in the league with 20+ yard pass plays even though he's 21st in attempts. Since they're not running deep patterns how else can one explain that without jumping to the conclusion that there's more than one way to skin a cat?

edit: Are the Rams facing more quarters defenses this year? That D gave the Rams trouble in the past (including in the Super Bowl). If that's the blueprint to beating McVay's offense then maybe not attacking the strength of quarters with the deep ball is McVay's counter move?


SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  The Rams offense lacks a deep threat

Speed_Kills824October 05, 2020 04:40PM

  they don’t even try to throw deep

Hazlet Hacksaw520October 05, 2020 04:50PM

  yeah I think it's more that

LMU93430October 06, 2020 04:01AM

  Very few seven step drops by Goff...

Ramsfsninmd295October 06, 2020 04:09AM

  I agree

RamsDynasty210October 06, 2020 04:39AM

  Re: Very few seven step drops by Goff...

LMU93358October 06, 2020 04:40AM

  a thing about this

zn231October 06, 2020 06:05AM

  If he is doing it this year he is just setting up screens

Hazlet Hacksaw359October 06, 2020 06:33AM

  Do You Need A 7-Step Drop To Go Vertical?

ramBRO303October 06, 2020 06:52AM

  Re: Very few seven step drops by Goff...long throwing motion?

BumRap285October 06, 2020 01:14PM

  I just remember...

Ramsfsninmd223October 07, 2020 08:05AM

  I REALLY don't get it!

Ramgator381October 05, 2020 05:35PM

  Akers is thee former HS QB

Suh-weet!316October 05, 2020 06:29PM

  I'm not ready to say that....

JamesJM302October 05, 2020 05:44PM

  Re: I'm not ready to say that....

BumRap159October 06, 2020 01:11PM

  John Ross

ramBRO239October 05, 2020 07:13PM

  Re: The Rams offense lacks a deep threat

Rams43262October 05, 2020 07:17PM

  Suffering from Vertical Congestion.

den-the-coach319October 06, 2020 05:37AM

  Re: Suffering from Vertical Congestion.

nicecatchellard154October 06, 2020 05:44AM

  agree...here's several examples

LMU93330October 06, 2020 07:22AM

  Re: agree...here's several examples

Speed_Kills217October 06, 2020 09:34AM

  Re: agree...here's several examples

LMU93192October 06, 2020 10:08AM

  yes agreed there

Speed_Kills228October 06, 2020 10:26AM

  Re: agree...here's several examples

Rams43226October 06, 2020 10:35AM

  idk 43

Speed_Kills235October 06, 2020 07:43AM

  Re: idk 43

Rams43214October 06, 2020 08:08AM

  Re: idk 43

Speed_Kills195October 06, 2020 09:39AM

  Re: idk 43

Rams43166October 06, 2020 10:45AM

  Re: idk 43

AlbaNY_Ram301October 06, 2020 11:09AM

  Re: idk 43

Rams43290October 06, 2020 11:17AM

  A couple of things

Speed_Kills196October 06, 2020 01:50PM

  Re: A couple of things

RamsFanSinceLA359October 06, 2020 01:56PM

  Re: ok but of course

Speed_Kills176October 06, 2020 02:02PM

  Re: ok but of course

RamsFanSinceLA156October 06, 2020 02:34PM

  I’m not sure

Speed_Kills166October 06, 2020 03:52PM

  Re: I’m not sure

RamsFanSinceLA154October 07, 2020 06:50AM

  You probably won't agree with me here....

JamesJM211October 06, 2020 02:13PM

  ok fair enough

Speed_Kills163October 06, 2020 04:13PM

  Take notice of my careful omission of saying...

JamesJM174October 06, 2020 04:20PM

  re Goff

Speed_Kills243October 06, 2020 04:48PM

  Re: A couple of things

AlbaNY_Ram154October 06, 2020 02:58PM

  Re: A couple of things

Speed_Kills274October 06, 2020 04:32PM

  Re: They say football is a game of Inches...

dzrams233October 07, 2020 11:24AM

  is the new guy a deep threat?

ferragamo79451October 06, 2020 07:24AM

  Re: is the new guy a deep threat?

den-the-coach343October 06, 2020 08:11AM

  Re: Schemes to be schemed out of GB

BumRap376October 06, 2020 01:10PM