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again not replying to the actual point

June 24, 2020 07:54AM
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nicecatchellard
It does make a difference if your oline is playing bad but when your oline sucks and your qb is off it makes it worse also. Goff has had some real bad games even when his oline was a top unit in 2018 correct? He has also had some great games with that line correct? Goff has some hinderance in his game even with a great oline IMO it is his inability to quickly dissect a defense or understand the concepts of mcvay play calls. I don't think it has anything to do with arm strength or mobility issues. To Me he weakness is in-between his ears. How long did it take him to figure out the 6-1 defense and to throw to the te in the middle of the field. Known as the emergence of Tyler Higbee out of nowhere. No one was covering him all year and teams dared Goff to go to him by playing the 6-1.

Remember this is about an extensively injured OL. Not an "ol that sucks." I've had the same debate with people since 2007, when the Rams suffered the worst series of OL injuries I can remember since I started following them. They were signing guys off the street during the season to replacement replacements who had gotten injured after replacing injured starters. And for some reason, there was always a core of fans who blamed everything on Bulger. This issue was blindspot for some then, too.

Oh and his OL was not a top unit in 2018. Not after Sullivan got worn down and Blythe got exposed as a guard and McVay had trouble adjusting to 6 man lines. Though at least the 2018 OL was healthy. There was no situation where 3 inexperienced guys were replacing injured OL.

An extensively injured OL does not have the same timing, rhythm, coherence, communication, and execution. You even have to adjust the playcalling--you can't run your normal offense (McVay directly said that last year).

And yes at the end of 2019 the Rams OL played fairly well in 3 out of 5 games but none of their 3 wins were against a D that could pressure. You're right that Goff played well given the circumstances. But the circumstances changed things.

And so this has nothing to do with "needs a great line," it has nothing to do with "all teams have injuries," it has nothing to do with any of that.

And again you have not named examples of qbs playing well behind extensively injured OLs. Well you did accidentally--you named 2, but my bet is you can't name the 2 and also can't tell me which years each played behind an OL with extensive, multiple injuries (and in both cases it eventually caught up with them.)


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  4 areas where Jared Goff must improve in 2020...

Rams43567June 22, 2020 06:41AM

  Good stuff there

NewMexicoRam80June 22, 2020 07:20AM

  Re: and feel in the pocket....

spagsbacker82June 22, 2020 07:40AM

  Re: and feel in the pocket....

nicecatchellard60June 22, 2020 07:57AM

  Re: and feel in the pocket....

Rampage2K-41June 22, 2020 11:42AM

  Re: and feel in the pocket....

nicecatchellard37June 22, 2020 01:48PM

  have pass protection

ferragamo7912June 28, 2020 02:18PM

  Re: and feel in the pocket....

zn69June 22, 2020 12:58PM

  Re: 4 areas where Jared Goff must improve in 2020...

AlbaNY_Ram82June 22, 2020 08:29AM

  Re: 4 areas where Jared Goff must improve in 2020...

zn71June 22, 2020 08:52AM

  Or been check down Charlie (aka Sam Bradford)

RockRam54June 22, 2020 09:11AM

  Re: Or been check down Charlie (aka Sam Bradford)

AlbaNY_Ram40June 22, 2020 09:29AM

  Re: Or been check down Charlie (aka Sam Bradford)

zn52June 22, 2020 09:51AM

  I'm saying Goff is NOT check down Charlie

RockRam36June 22, 2020 10:13AM

  Re: 4 areas where Jared Goff must improve in 2020...

Scottish Ram36June 22, 2020 10:28AM

  And a better performing O line helps out all around

NewMexicoRam24June 22, 2020 11:28AM

  Wow, as of 10/14/2019 Attachments

JimYoungblood5342June 28, 2020 11:37AM

  Goff needs to step it up and play like his forst 27 games under McVay Attachments

JimYoungblood5328June 28, 2020 11:52AM

  Re: Goff needs to step it up and play like his forst 27 games under McVay

SoCalRAMatic18June 28, 2020 12:54PM

  You do that

JimYoungblood5323June 28, 2020 07:11PM

  need to watch the games to realize

ferragamo7919June 28, 2020 01:08PM

  Not my stats---and whoever wrote it probably watches

JimYoungblood5321June 28, 2020 07:07PM

  Re: Not my stats---and whoever wrote it probably watches

zn25June 29, 2020 06:21AM

  Talent and was talking aboit the comparitave charts

JimYoungblood5316June 29, 2020 09:08AM

  Re: Talent and was talking aboit the comparitave charts

zn19June 30, 2020 04:46AM

  pffft.

JimYoungblood5311June 30, 2020 05:11PM

  I was talking about the OL

zn14June 30, 2020 08:35PM

  but those aren't his last 14 games

ferragamo7916June 28, 2020 01:07PM

  I think it was from last October---it was his last 14 at the time

JimYoungblood5311June 28, 2020 07:04PM

  he needs to throw less...

LMU9365June 22, 2020 10:30AM

  Re: he needs to throw less...

nicecatchellard43June 22, 2020 10:48AM

  Re: he needs to throw less...

LMU9336June 22, 2020 11:11AM

  Re: he needs to throw less...

zn35June 22, 2020 01:52PM

  He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

roman1860June 22, 2020 11:19AM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

nicecatchellard57June 22, 2020 11:36AM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

RamsfanDave45June 22, 2020 01:16PM

  I think it's simpler than that

zn58June 22, 2020 01:56PM

  solid OL and running game

ferragamo7945June 22, 2020 02:05PM

  +1 (nm)

zn18June 22, 2020 03:17PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

zn61June 22, 2020 03:46PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

Rampage2K-56June 22, 2020 04:02PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

waterfield37June 22, 2020 04:45PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

nicecatchellard41June 23, 2020 04:51PM

  you're off topic

zn51June 23, 2020 05:16PM

  Re: you're off topic

nicecatchellard30June 24, 2020 04:33AM

  please hear the actual point being made.

zn39June 24, 2020 06:39AM

  Re: please hear the actual point being made.

nicecatchellard24June 24, 2020 07:02AM

  nope

zn32June 24, 2020 07:22AM

  Re: nope

nicecatchellard24June 24, 2020 07:38AM

  again not replying to the actual point

zn31June 24, 2020 07:54AM

  Re: again not replying to the actual point

nicecatchellard26June 24, 2020 08:11AM

  nope

zn26June 24, 2020 12:12PM

  Re: again not replying to the actual point

Rampage2K-19June 27, 2020 10:55AM

  I’m gonna jump in here with my 2 cents...

Rams4328June 24, 2020 08:12AM

  Re: I’m gonna jump in here with my 2 cents...

nicecatchellard23June 24, 2020 08:29AM

  The Gurley deficit

Suh-weet!22June 26, 2020 12:43PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

Rampage2K-53June 23, 2020 07:14PM

  Re: He will never be any of those people you mentioned....

nicecatchellard24June 24, 2020 04:42AM