Re: Not sure why zn saw Edwards at LOT

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well not that short, but they are short for a OT. At least IMOthey are. That might be part of it.

That’s what I see.

zn had seen it differently a couple of weeks ago, not sure why...

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Don't get too hung up about which positions they will play. This is Kromer, that can change. They sure aren't going to bench Hav when he's ready to come back. Evans has always looked like a guard to me anyway. And I can see Edwards at LOT.

Things do change. Hav isn’t being “rushed” back, if you can call that what they’re doing.

But the biggest clarification is that Evans looks like a more natural OT than Edwards. Just because he’s an inch or two shorter doesn’t mean he’s more of a guard than Edwards. Just watch how smoothly he moves his feet compared to Edwards. But watching Havensteins is the worst of all. And zn was dead on right about Havenstein. Overpaid.

Because he played tackle in college, well, at a high level, and has the athleticism. Edwards was a great pick. I still believe he can play LOT. But I concede the point that Evans so far looks like a great tackle. Though many were a little behind on Evans. The key was this--yeah Kromer himself said over the summer he was behind, but then into the season Kromer started sending out signals that Evans was catching up.

But as long as we're razzing each other with old arguments--remember when I criticized Givens and you defended him ferociously? Like the style of defending a player where it was unbelievable that this heretic would come along and smear a destined to be great Rams player.

Most of us--actually all of us---are never right enough to play the "I was right" game.

Having said that, I will now do this--brag about being right. I said early on (and I was not alone) that this could be one of the best Rams drafts in years. It really is looking that way. Rapp, Evans, Edwards. I believe that when solidified and less of a rookie that Henderson will be a great pick. We have to see on Long and Gaines, but in both cases, it's a matter of HOW good they will be. If you count RB2 as a starter, Rams may have gotten 6 starters from this draft.

We can agree on that, I'm sure.

I admit to being wrong about Givens without having to add the stuff I got right.

This is not really about any of that. It’s about our current evaluation of our OL. And what we base it on. I base my assessment of Edwards on a few things. Predraft evals of him, where the Rams are currently playing him, his own words on where he believes he fits best, and what I see with my own eyes the past few weeks.

I’m just trying to get insightful views on the future of our OL. I haven’t seen anything that would convince me Edwards can play LT.

Some predraft evals had Edwards at guard. Either way it's not "insightful views," that's code...yes that post's about being right. We don't need internal investigations about differences of opinion, and to me anyway it's more fun if it's less competitive. If you just want to discuss Edwards, yeah I think he has good enough feet for LOT...I mean he's not Hav, he's not this Frankenstein plodder. The possible sticking point for me is Deadpool's point about arm length, which may or may not be an issue. Here's one good write-up on him: "Former option quarterback and high school basketball player with good feet...Early quickness in pass sets...is fairly natural and fluid." But the hang-up is technique (and strength development)--same eval, negatives: "Initial slides are quick but might not gain enough ground...Punch-pull technique gets the best of him...Lacks sand to drop and anchor against bull rush...Play features inconsistent hand placement...Upper and lower body work independently...Below-average leg drive to generate movement...Feet deaden and he fails to improve base-block positioning....Defaults to maul mode over technique in recovery."

But I don't know, with Kromer you never know who will end up where.

Either way the REAL thing, not the just chat about players thing but the REAL thing, is that no team is supposed to be able to replace 3 OL injuries (after 2 starters left in the first place) and do well with 2 rookies and 3rd guy they had in for just a month.

They haven't faced SF yet but the fact that they are even doing this well so far is this huge testimony to those 2 draft picks and who they are, and to the coaching.

It's kind of unbelievable, really.