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Well, it's not as if I've been silent, and nobody has any idea what I think.

September 12, 2019 08:41AM
I have been trying not to get into any back and forth, back and forth.

I think the trend is real, not merely an artifact.

Going back to the Detroit game, I said at the time that he didn't look right to me in that game.
I meant "not right" just looking at him on the bench. Pale, and a distracted look on his face, like he was dealing with something.
I thought maybe he was sick or something.

But that was just that game. And we don't know of any physical issues, so that's not it.

Here is where I'm at right now - it's just a theory:

Goff came in to the league not really ready from a scheme standpoint to be an effective NFL starter - the whole Air Raid QB thing.
Fisher and company couldn't do anything about that.

But then McVay came along and he instantly found ways to make Jared more effective. Played to his strengths, introduced concepts a bite at a time.
And Goff responded to that and played great at times within those limits.

I can remember when teams were just trying to stop Gurley because they didn't fear Goff. It's actually a testament to how well Goff began to play that DC's changed their focus and now try to stop Goff instead.

So he's up against that now, and he's going to have to expand and grow, or he'll fail.

I start out with a bias in favor of Jared. He's "my guy". So naturally I'm going to be a little more patient than some others.

But what are we going to do? What's the alternative to being patient? The Rams have cast their lot with Goff for years to come.

We can "raise red flags" all we want or run around with our hair on fire, but this is our QB.

I think some of your concerns are quite justified. I see it, too.

Goff isn't going to ever "look" like Mahomes or Watson, because he's not instinctive and dynamic in that way. But he can beat them sometimes.

He has his own traits, as McVay says, and McVay likes him.
And the two to them are going to continue to work on maximizing those traits.

I don't see any reason yet to believe that he can't be a high level QB for the Rams, and win it all. We almost got there last year.

And I don't see any reason why he has to do it this Sunday or else. That's an artificial deadline.

Why panic?

Let's see where he is at 25, 26, 27, 28.

I'm putting this out there, but I don't really care.
I've made my peace with the idea that other people are going to see Goff differently. So what?

I get to watch him every Sunday and see if I'm right and that's good enough for me.



Ramily!
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Goff's last 20 games...

max892September 11, 2019 07:35AM

  not understanding the graph

ferragamo79228September 11, 2019 07:45AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

AlbaNY_Ram180September 11, 2019 08:00AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

Rampage2K-171September 11, 2019 08:12AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

AlbaNY_Ram147September 11, 2019 08:42AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

Rampage2K-123September 11, 2019 09:41AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

max171September 11, 2019 08:13AM

  Re: not understanding the graph

Rampage2K-119September 11, 2019 08:29AM

  Hey, you can interpret the data anyway you want

max122September 11, 2019 09:11AM

  Re: Hey, you can interpret the data anyway you want

Rampage2K-104September 11, 2019 09:48AM

  One of my favorite sayings from science is

RamUK113September 11, 2019 01:30PM

  thanks Max

ferragamo79115September 11, 2019 08:38AM

  Thats a fair assessment

max106September 11, 2019 09:14AM

  So how do you account for all the winning. NM

PHDram108September 11, 2019 08:28AM

  Re: Sean McKay

spagsbacker144September 11, 2019 10:13PM

  perhaps my memory is not as sharp

PHDram93September 12, 2019 04:24AM

  Up to week eleven it was outstanding

Hazlet Hacksaw123September 11, 2019 08:33AM

  Re: Up to week eleven it was outstanding

zn90September 11, 2019 07:46PM

  Re: Up to week eleven it was outstanding

max88September 12, 2019 02:29AM

  Goff himself called it rust

zn81September 12, 2019 12:31PM

  Re: Goff himself called it rust

LMU9384September 12, 2019 01:11PM

  Re: Goff himself called it rust

zn78September 12, 2019 01:16PM

  yeah, 79.6

max85September 12, 2019 01:35PM

  Re: yeah, 79.6

LMU9372September 13, 2019 07:16AM

  Re: Goff himself called it rust

moklerman68September 13, 2019 07:21AM

  Re: Goff himself called it rust

max82September 13, 2019 07:26AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

bigjimram21115September 11, 2019 08:38AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

Rampage2K-113September 11, 2019 09:44AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

bigjimram2170September 12, 2019 06:52AM

  Re: yeah its not a good trend

Speed_Kills129September 11, 2019 08:40AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

moklerman107September 11, 2019 10:58AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

sacram81September 11, 2019 11:18AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

Rampage2K-87September 11, 2019 11:23AM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

moklerman90September 11, 2019 03:43PM

  The point is this...

max97September 11, 2019 03:57PM

  Re: Yeah Goff was very good against the Saints

Speed_Kills86September 13, 2019 07:29AM

  If you consider the playoff game in New Orleans a....

sacram89September 11, 2019 06:22PM

  Re: If you consider the playoff game in New Orleans a....

moklerman86September 11, 2019 10:02PM

  gotta break with you that one moklerman

Speed_Kills74September 13, 2019 07:32AM

  Re: gotta break with you that one moklerman

moklerman77September 13, 2019 08:03AM

  wow, I missed this, ok, time out...

max74September 13, 2019 08:03AM

  Re: wow, I missed this, ok, time out...

moklerman71September 13, 2019 08:09AM

  Yep, that’s what I thought you meant

max64September 13, 2019 09:28AM

  Re: Yep, that’s what I thought you meant

moklerman62September 13, 2019 09:42AM

  Goff's Passer rating last 20 games...

sacram135September 11, 2019 11:21AM

  Re: Goff's Passer rating last 20 games...

max102September 11, 2019 12:22PM

  Re: Goff's Passer rating last 20 games...

sacram93September 11, 2019 12:46PM

  Re: Goff's Passer rating last 20 games...

Suh-weet!81September 11, 2019 02:48PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

jim beam92September 11, 2019 12:03PM

  Not at all surprising

Suh-weet!163September 11, 2019 12:19PM

  Wrong

max115September 11, 2019 12:24PM

  Max: how about this?

BC Ramsfan119September 11, 2019 12:38PM

  Re: Max: how about this?

max89September 11, 2019 01:53PM

  Justr look at the graph

BC Ramsfan97September 11, 2019 02:02PM

  Re: Justr look at the graph

max108September 11, 2019 02:12PM

  I would not be so sure of that NM.

PHDram78September 11, 2019 03:53PM

  Re: I would not be so sure of that NM.

max97September 11, 2019 04:00PM

  thanks for the modified graph

BC Ramsfan88September 11, 2019 05:19PM

  Brash and mistaken is till mistaken, Max

Suh-weet!135September 11, 2019 02:14PM

  I have no idea what you're talking about. nm

max81September 11, 2019 02:17PM

  You could have just said so the first time, but... carry on. (nm)

Suh-weet!93September 11, 2019 02:18PM

  I'll know to ignore next time. thanks. nm

max78September 11, 2019 02:23PM

  Re: Brash and mistaken is till mistaken, Max

zn103September 11, 2019 07:37PM

  Re: Brash and mistaken is till mistaken, Max

max84September 12, 2019 02:27AM

  Why would you say that?

Suh-weet!68September 12, 2019 06:15PM

  I'm not going to run those numbers, but...

Suh-weet!87September 12, 2019 04:17AM

  Re: I'm not going to run those numbers, but...

zn86September 12, 2019 05:29AM

  claim away...

PHDram85September 12, 2019 05:46AM

  Re: claim away...

max80September 12, 2019 06:03AM

  hunh?

zn78September 12, 2019 06:04AM

  They ALL do. All 12 of them.

Suh-weet!71September 12, 2019 06:12PM

  Good lord, this is like the worst game of Clue....ever!

promomasterj117September 11, 2019 12:55PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

Hollywood Ram85September 11, 2019 01:19PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...Too early for this stuff

BumRap100September 11, 2019 02:07PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...Too early for this stuff

Rampage2K-93September 11, 2019 02:36PM

  Re: Bringing It, Bum Rap

leafnose62September 13, 2019 12:41PM

  100 percent with you

promomasterj90September 11, 2019 02:52PM

  The GOATs last 20 games...

DaJudge143September 11, 2019 03:00PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

Rams43139September 11, 2019 03:04PM

  Totally fair, 43

max106September 11, 2019 04:13PM

  More Kupp and Gurley will bring him back

Rams_8188September 11, 2019 04:20PM

  Here are Dak's and Watson's charts...

max165September 12, 2019 04:26AM

  Re: Here are Dak's and Watson's charts...have they been to a Super Bowl?

Rampage2K-99September 12, 2019 06:13AM

  So Rex Grossman is better than Philip Rivers?

max93September 12, 2019 07:03AM

  Re: So Rex Grossman is better than Philip Rivers?

moklerman87September 12, 2019 07:25AM

  Re: its really silly to me how people react to this stuff

Speed_Kills92September 12, 2019 07:58AM

  Thank you

max75September 12, 2019 08:06AM

  We can have disagreements on this board without people being "under attack".

Saguaro99September 12, 2019 08:10AM

  Re: speak

Speed_Kills90September 12, 2019 08:16AM

  Well, it's not as if I've been silent, and nobody has any idea what I think.

Saguaro88September 12, 2019 08:41AM

  Re: I had no idea what you thought until just now

Speed_Kills75September 12, 2019 09:09AM

  One quick add. I'm less interested in the Goff narrative than beating the Saints, period.

Saguaro88September 12, 2019 09:19AM

  I'm extremely interesting in winning this game, its huge

max73September 12, 2019 09:37AM

  Re: agreed... its about the win

Speed_Kills80September 12, 2019 09:50AM

  Yup...

max77September 12, 2019 10:12AM

  Re: Well, it's not as if I've been silent, and nobody has any idea what I think.

Rampage2K-75September 12, 2019 09:15AM

  Re: We can have disagreements on this board without people being "under attack".

max78September 12, 2019 08:32AM

  Re: So Rex Grossman is better than Philip Rivers?

Rampage2K-109September 12, 2019 09:10AM

  Some context

CeeZar101September 12, 2019 06:05AM

  Thats not context, that's cherry picking

max86September 12, 2019 07:00AM

  90 is the new 80

moklerman85September 12, 2019 07:20AM

  Re: 90 is the new 80

max90September 12, 2019 07:40AM

  Well, I will say this.

Saguaro78September 12, 2019 08:04AM

  I would be wrong too.

max77September 12, 2019 08:09AM

  I'm just not ready to make one game or even series of games the final answer.

Saguaro78September 12, 2019 08:14AM

  Re: I would be wrong too.

moklerman72September 12, 2019 08:15AM

  Re: It seems that Ram

Speed_Kills68September 12, 2019 06:29PM

  Re: 90 is the new 80

moklerman64September 12, 2019 08:05AM

  Re: Thats not context, that's cherry picking

CeeZar81September 12, 2019 07:48AM

  Re: Thats not context, that's cherry picking

max97September 12, 2019 07:54AM

  Re: Thats not context, that's cherry picking

PHDram91September 12, 2019 08:42AM

  Those are thoughtful questions

max88September 12, 2019 09:18AM

  Re: Those are thoughtful questions

PHDram76September 12, 2019 06:32PM

  Re: Thats not context, that's cherry picking

GroundPounder83September 12, 2019 10:06AM

  people often misuse the term "cherry picking"

zn85September 12, 2019 12:58PM

  Thinking too much

RFL153September 12, 2019 10:26AM

  Re: Thinking too much

max91September 12, 2019 11:01AM

  Re: Thinking too much

Atlantic Ram86September 12, 2019 02:04PM

  Re: Goff's last 20 games...

george_allen83September 12, 2019 02:54PM

  Goff before and after BYE chart

max115September 13, 2019 04:33AM

  Re: wow look at that

Speed_Kills112September 13, 2019 05:10AM

  wow...what a revelation

Rampage2K-87September 13, 2019 05:31AM

  Re: wow...what a revelation

max85September 13, 2019 05:39AM

  not really

PHDram78September 13, 2019 06:26AM

  Re: not really

max77September 13, 2019 06:38AM

  Re: not really

PHDram78September 13, 2019 06:55AM

  Ah, there's the confusion

max66September 13, 2019 11:18AM

  This is getting fun now. Attachments

Saguaro116September 13, 2019 06:30AM

  Re: This is getting fun now.

max90September 13, 2019 06:41AM

  the goat Attachments

PHDram119September 13, 2019 08:37AM

  Keep in mind...

moklerman98September 13, 2019 08:51AM

  Those games are not comparable

CeeZar93September 13, 2019 09:28AM

  Does that work both ways?

moklerman74September 13, 2019 09:47AM

  Re: Does that work both ways?

Rampage2K-77September 13, 2019 10:14AM

  Re: Does that work both ways?

moklerman68September 13, 2019 10:24AM

  Re: Does that work both ways?

Rampage2K-75September 13, 2019 10:34AM

  Re: Does that work both ways?

moklerman66September 13, 2019 10:58AM

  Re: the bottom line is

Speed_Kills79September 13, 2019 11:24AM

  Yeah, well...maybe you're right. Attachments

Saguaro81September 13, 2019 01:06PM

  Re: On Sunday hes going to do his thing

Speed_Kills72September 13, 2019 04:28PM

  Re: the bottom line is

Rampage2K-78September 13, 2019 02:12PM

  Re: the bottom line is

Speed_Kills65September 13, 2019 04:26PM

  Re: the bottom line is

Rampage2K-71September 13, 2019 05:01PM

  No one's demanding 350/3

moklerman77September 13, 2019 05:18PM

  Re: I don't think the Chiefs sold out to stop the run

Speed_Kills73September 13, 2019 11:20AM

  Re: the goat

max83September 13, 2019 11:05AM

  Re: the goat

PHDram80September 13, 2019 11:46AM

  Re: the goat

max80September 13, 2019 03:09PM

  Were all agreed on that last statement. NM

PHDram62September 13, 2019 03:54PM

  Re: the goat

zn78September 13, 2019 04:48PM

  Re: the goat

max72September 13, 2019 06:08PM

  Re: the goat

zn78September 13, 2019 06:27PM