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September 10, 2019 12:13PM
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In involves the Law of Recency which essentially says that recent experiences come to our memories more easily than those in the past.(The Law of Recency refers to the observation that memories of recent experiences come to mind more easily than memories from the distant past (T. Brown, 1824; Calkins, 1896). Given the ubiquitous nature of recency across time-scales, memory tasks, and stimulus materials, it is not surprising that it has occupied center stage in theoretical analyses of memory over many decades (Crowder, 1976).)

We hold what we most recently have observed to be the truth as opposed to what we once held to be the truth. I.e. "my present girlfriend is so much prettier than my last one".

You guys are completely missing the point....it has nothing to do with trying to compare Goff to Warner in totality ....its about comparing where they are/were at age 24 in there football lives.

to use your analogy, all we can hope is that our new girlfriend ends up being way hotter than our old one at this point......and that the relationship last much longer.spin tounge smiley

And another thing.

Warner wasn't WARNER at 24. Brady wasn't BRADY at 24. We can agree on these things.

But it's not just that. In retrospect we can go back and say that the "seeds" of WARNER and BRADY were visible when they were 24. But. in real time, the seeds of THAT kind of greatness obviously were visible to almost anyone, including the vast majority of people paid handsomely for finding future NFL superstars.

And will Goff be as good as WARNER some day? Probably not? But I - and most of us - can say that with some confidence simply because, 1) he's obviously not as good yet; 2) very few QBs developed into a WARNER. That's it. It's not about all the things he can't do, doesn't do, will "never" do... Given that most of us would agree that Goff at 24 is better than Warner was at 24, seems awfully odd to point to Goff's weaknesses and insist on THAT basis that Goff could never be as good as WARNER.

I think he's very good now, mediocre performances like yesterday's notwithstanding, and very much look forward to seeing him develop into a player a few insist he can never become.
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  Goff

Ramsfan691113September 08, 2019 05:29PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit290September 08, 2019 05:35PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Speed_Kills281September 08, 2019 05:41PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Classicalwit197September 08, 2019 05:51PM

  Hasn't this been the ongoing conversation?

moklerman172September 08, 2019 11:32PM

  in fairness

RamUK195September 09, 2019 07:22AM

  Re: Goff

zn281September 08, 2019 05:44PM

  Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

JamesJM210September 08, 2019 05:55PM

  Re: Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

zn176September 08, 2019 07:37PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit165September 08, 2019 06:12PM

  So...

Saguaro158September 08, 2019 07:16PM

  Re: Goff

zn149September 08, 2019 07:41PM

  Goff just seemed rusty...

Rams43168September 08, 2019 07:31PM

  a bit of rust...

LMU93138September 09, 2019 04:07AM

  here's the test for me...try it at home next game...

SunTzu_vs_Camus201September 09, 2019 07:20AM

  Goff is better than Warner ?

waterfield157September 09, 2019 08:01AM

  nw...waterfield

SunTzu_vs_Camus121September 09, 2019 08:06AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

jim beam131September 09, 2019 08:14AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

waterfield121September 09, 2019 09:31AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-149September 09, 2019 08:15AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

jim beam126September 09, 2019 08:35AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman119September 09, 2019 09:57AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-128September 09, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman102September 09, 2019 10:28AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-108September 09, 2019 10:55AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Speed_Kills121September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

stlramz115September 09, 2019 12:01PM

  Re: ok but at 24

Speed_Kills99September 09, 2019 12:06PM

  Re: ok but at 24

stlramz92September 09, 2019 12:18PM

  Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM100September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn119September 10, 2019 03:58AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM113September 10, 2019 05:01AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

Rampage2K-77September 10, 2019 05:48AM

  I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

JamesJM98September 10, 2019 05:56AM

  Re: Good job Jim! nm

Speed_Kills80September 10, 2019 05:58AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

Rampage2K-95September 10, 2019 06:03AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

zn83September 10, 2019 06:24AM

  Well, just one more comment...

JamesJM85September 10, 2019 06:30AM

  Re: Well, just one more comment...

zn90September 10, 2019 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn81September 10, 2019 05:52AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Rampage2K-115September 09, 2019 01:23PM

  I will make this really easy for you...what was Warner doing at 23-24???

Rampage2K-91September 09, 2019 01:22PM

  Re: this is one weird thread

Speed_Kills112September 09, 2019 11:16AM

  It's not at all surprising Speed

waterfield110September 09, 2019 12:13PM

  Re: I guess but...

Speed_Kills87September 09, 2019 12:22PM

  Actually, if I err...

JamesJM99September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: It's not at all surprising Speed

Rampage2K-96September 09, 2019 02:07PM

  I'm with you

Suh-weet!83September 10, 2019 12:13PM

  naw

zn100September 10, 2019 04:02AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Steve88September 10, 2019 05:17AM

  Story has just begun for Goff...

Suh-weet!72September 10, 2019 12:18PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

kw1374September 10, 2019 01:01PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

Rampage2K-79September 10, 2019 01:14PM

  Drew Brees at age 24

Suh-weet!83September 10, 2019 03:39PM

  Re: Drew Brees at age 24

CraigMatson83September 10, 2019 07:34PM

  Re: you lost me by saying he is better than Warner

Speed_Kills105September 09, 2019 11:10AM

  I'm sure I lost a lotta folks with that one!!! lol

SunTzu_vs_Camus100September 09, 2019 11:51AM

  I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

JamesJM130September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

Speed_Kills106September 09, 2019 12:00PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

zn107September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

Classicalwit93September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: the example you gave is a good one

Speed_Kills81September 09, 2019 12:17PM

  this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn132September 09, 2019 01:12PM

  yeah, good breakdown of the miscommunication...

SunTzu_vs_Camus90September 10, 2019 03:45AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

stlramz122September 10, 2019 07:54AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn89September 10, 2019 02:41PM

  Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

NewMexicoRam103September 10, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

zn83September 11, 2019 06:13AM

  Re: Goff

BeachBoy112September 09, 2019 01:27PM

  Re: Goff

CraigMatson118September 10, 2019 05:16AM

  Re: Goff

zn121September 10, 2019 05:27AM