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Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

September 10, 2019 05:52AM
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JamesJM
i think you miss my point... although you still disagree. You're all in on a rebirth at age 27-28. I don't think it happened that way at all.

I don't think it was a rebirth. Not at all. That's not what I was saying. I think it was growth from 22 to 27.

I think if somehow timelines got jiggled and the Rams #2 in 99 was the 24 year old Warner, he would not have been as mature and as ready as he actually was in the real timeline.

When you say "there is no question he developed" then we're saying the same thing. I just emphasize it more.

I don't think Kurt WAS Kurt at 24, not in terms of maturity and develipment, though obviously the seed was there already planted. I don't think he thinks he was ready or developed then either. That's a year after Green Bay training camp, which was a humbling experience.

He only started one year at Northern Iowa. He enter the league a bit behind. But he did develop and grow, no question, and Arena and Europe were part of it.

I DO think Goff has it in him to surpass Kurt in a lot of ways. I think the seed is there in him, too..
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  Goff

Ramsfan691111September 08, 2019 05:29PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit288September 08, 2019 05:35PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Speed_Kills280September 08, 2019 05:41PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Classicalwit196September 08, 2019 05:51PM

  Hasn't this been the ongoing conversation?

moklerman170September 08, 2019 11:32PM

  in fairness

RamUK194September 09, 2019 07:22AM

  Re: Goff

zn280September 08, 2019 05:44PM

  Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

JamesJM208September 08, 2019 05:55PM

  Re: Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

zn174September 08, 2019 07:37PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit165September 08, 2019 06:12PM

  So...

Saguaro155September 08, 2019 07:16PM

  Re: Goff

zn148September 08, 2019 07:41PM

  Goff just seemed rusty...

Rams43167September 08, 2019 07:31PM

  a bit of rust...

LMU93137September 09, 2019 04:07AM

  here's the test for me...try it at home next game...

SunTzu_vs_Camus199September 09, 2019 07:20AM

  Goff is better than Warner ?

waterfield157September 09, 2019 08:01AM

  nw...waterfield

SunTzu_vs_Camus120September 09, 2019 08:06AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

jim beam129September 09, 2019 08:14AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

waterfield120September 09, 2019 09:31AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-148September 09, 2019 08:15AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

jim beam125September 09, 2019 08:35AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman118September 09, 2019 09:57AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-125September 09, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman102September 09, 2019 10:28AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-104September 09, 2019 10:55AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Speed_Kills120September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

stlramz112September 09, 2019 12:01PM

  Re: ok but at 24

Speed_Kills98September 09, 2019 12:06PM

  Re: ok but at 24

stlramz90September 09, 2019 12:18PM

  Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM100September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn117September 10, 2019 03:58AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM110September 10, 2019 05:01AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

Rampage2K-76September 10, 2019 05:48AM

  I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

JamesJM96September 10, 2019 05:56AM

  Re: Good job Jim! nm

Speed_Kills79September 10, 2019 05:58AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

Rampage2K-94September 10, 2019 06:03AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

zn82September 10, 2019 06:24AM

  Well, just one more comment...

JamesJM85September 10, 2019 06:30AM

  Re: Well, just one more comment...

zn90September 10, 2019 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn80September 10, 2019 05:52AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Rampage2K-114September 09, 2019 01:23PM

  I will make this really easy for you...what was Warner doing at 23-24???

Rampage2K-90September 09, 2019 01:22PM

  Re: this is one weird thread

Speed_Kills112September 09, 2019 11:16AM

  It's not at all surprising Speed

waterfield110September 09, 2019 12:13PM

  Re: I guess but...

Speed_Kills86September 09, 2019 12:22PM

  Actually, if I err...

JamesJM98September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: It's not at all surprising Speed

Rampage2K-93September 09, 2019 02:07PM

  I'm with you

Suh-weet!80September 10, 2019 12:13PM

  naw

zn98September 10, 2019 04:02AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Steve87September 10, 2019 05:17AM

  Story has just begun for Goff...

Suh-weet!71September 10, 2019 12:18PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

kw1372September 10, 2019 01:01PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

Rampage2K-77September 10, 2019 01:14PM

  Drew Brees at age 24

Suh-weet!83September 10, 2019 03:39PM

  Re: Drew Brees at age 24

CraigMatson80September 10, 2019 07:34PM

  Re: you lost me by saying he is better than Warner

Speed_Kills105September 09, 2019 11:10AM

  I'm sure I lost a lotta folks with that one!!! lol

SunTzu_vs_Camus100September 09, 2019 11:51AM

  I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

JamesJM128September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

Speed_Kills104September 09, 2019 12:00PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

zn106September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

Classicalwit89September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: the example you gave is a good one

Speed_Kills80September 09, 2019 12:17PM

  this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn132September 09, 2019 01:12PM

  yeah, good breakdown of the miscommunication...

SunTzu_vs_Camus89September 10, 2019 03:45AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

stlramz122September 10, 2019 07:54AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn88September 10, 2019 02:41PM

  Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

NewMexicoRam103September 10, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

zn81September 11, 2019 06:13AM

  Re: Goff

BeachBoy112September 09, 2019 01:27PM

  Re: Goff

CraigMatson116September 10, 2019 05:16AM

  Re: Goff

zn120September 10, 2019 05:27AM