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Drew Brees at age 24

September 10, 2019 03:39PM
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kw13
My issue right now with Goff is that, after watching the saints and Houston, I found myself thinking "our guy couldn't have got us to a FG in 37 seconds, much less the 2 play TD drive of Watson.

Now, as a team we are capable of scoring on every drive. But Goff is just doing what he's told, the old game manager analogy. But drawing up plays in the sand to win a game is where I just don't see Goff matching.

Mind you, I absolutely think Goff could do that. I certainly don't think he's Brees or Brady in that regard. Yet. But, especially if he's allowed to sit easy in the pocket as Brees did and the defense drops half their team deep, as the Texans did, yeah, I would be thrilled - but not shocked - to see Goff get it done. "Game manager"?! I couldn't disagree more.

But here's the thing.

Brees at 24 went 2-9, threw 11 TD's and 15 picks, completed 57.6% of his passes for 192 ypg and earned a 67.5 QB rating. How bad is that? VERY nearly as bad as Goff's horrible first year, when his rating was 63.6 and the team went 0-7 w/him at the helm.

Just seems a bit rough to find fault with Goff for not matching up w/an all-time great in his prime when that all-time great wasn't nearly what he would become at the same stage of his illustrious career.
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  Goff

Ramsfan691127September 08, 2019 05:29PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit296September 08, 2019 05:35PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Speed_Kills292September 08, 2019 05:41PM

  Re: Its one game and he didn't play in the preseason

Classicalwit206September 08, 2019 05:51PM

  Hasn't this been the ongoing conversation?

moklerman180September 08, 2019 11:32PM

  in fairness

RamUK206September 09, 2019 07:22AM

  Re: Goff

zn288September 08, 2019 05:44PM

  Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

JamesJM218September 08, 2019 05:55PM

  Re: Well, yeah, but he confuses me.

zn183September 08, 2019 07:37PM

  Re: Goff

Classicalwit171September 08, 2019 06:12PM

  So...

Saguaro164September 08, 2019 07:16PM

  Re: Goff

zn156September 08, 2019 07:41PM

  Goff just seemed rusty...

Rams43174September 08, 2019 07:31PM

  a bit of rust...

LMU93147September 09, 2019 04:07AM

  here's the test for me...try it at home next game...

SunTzu_vs_Camus214September 09, 2019 07:20AM

  Goff is better than Warner ?

waterfield167September 09, 2019 08:01AM

  nw...waterfield

SunTzu_vs_Camus130September 09, 2019 08:06AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

jim beam139September 09, 2019 08:14AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?/ Not

waterfield129September 09, 2019 09:31AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-163September 09, 2019 08:15AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

jim beam133September 09, 2019 08:35AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman127September 09, 2019 09:57AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-136September 09, 2019 10:00AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

moklerman110September 09, 2019 10:28AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Rampage2K-116September 09, 2019 10:55AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Speed_Kills126September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

stlramz121September 09, 2019 12:01PM

  Re: ok but at 24

Speed_Kills108September 09, 2019 12:06PM

  Re: ok but at 24

stlramz100September 09, 2019 12:18PM

  Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM106September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn128September 10, 2019 03:58AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

JamesJM121September 10, 2019 05:01AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

Rampage2K-81September 10, 2019 05:48AM

  I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

JamesJM108September 10, 2019 05:56AM

  Re: Good job Jim! nm

Speed_Kills88September 10, 2019 05:58AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

Rampage2K-105September 10, 2019 06:03AM

  Re: I don't deny the development... but lets look at the whole picture..

zn90September 10, 2019 06:24AM

  Well, just one more comment...

JamesJM95September 10, 2019 06:30AM

  Re: Well, just one more comment...

zn103September 10, 2019 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry to repeat this... I know you've heard me say it many times...

zn89September 10, 2019 05:52AM

  Re: 2K seriously what are you doing man

Rampage2K-123September 09, 2019 01:23PM

  I will make this really easy for you...what was Warner doing at 23-24???

Rampage2K-96September 09, 2019 01:22PM

  Re: this is one weird thread

Speed_Kills120September 09, 2019 11:16AM

  It's not at all surprising Speed

waterfield122September 09, 2019 12:13PM

  Re: I guess but...

Speed_Kills99September 09, 2019 12:22PM

  Actually, if I err...

JamesJM106September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: It's not at all surprising Speed

Rampage2K-104September 09, 2019 02:07PM

  I'm with you

Suh-weet!91September 10, 2019 12:13PM

  naw

zn106September 10, 2019 04:02AM

  Re: Goff is better than Warner ?

Steve93September 10, 2019 05:17AM

  Story has just begun for Goff...

Suh-weet!81September 10, 2019 12:18PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

kw1382September 10, 2019 01:01PM

  Re: Story has just begun for Goff...

Rampage2K-90September 10, 2019 01:14PM

  Drew Brees at age 24

Suh-weet!93September 10, 2019 03:39PM

  Re: Drew Brees at age 24

CraigMatson89September 10, 2019 07:34PM

  Re: you lost me by saying he is better than Warner

Speed_Kills111September 09, 2019 11:10AM

  I'm sure I lost a lotta folks with that one!!! lol

SunTzu_vs_Camus106September 09, 2019 11:51AM

  I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

JamesJM137September 09, 2019 11:57AM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

Speed_Kills117September 09, 2019 12:00PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner either

zn115September 09, 2019 12:24PM

  Re: I wouldn't take Mahomes over Warner...

Classicalwit100September 09, 2019 12:10PM

  Re: the example you gave is a good one

Speed_Kills88September 09, 2019 12:17PM

  this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn141September 09, 2019 01:12PM

  yeah, good breakdown of the miscommunication...

SunTzu_vs_Camus99September 10, 2019 03:45AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

stlramz131September 10, 2019 07:54AM

  Re: this is how the Goff/Warner comparison discussions always go

zn101September 10, 2019 02:41PM

  Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

NewMexicoRam110September 10, 2019 02:54PM

  Re: Sorry to puncture your carton of juice....

zn91September 11, 2019 06:13AM

  Re: Goff

BeachBoy120September 09, 2019 01:27PM

  Re: Goff

CraigMatson124September 10, 2019 05:16AM

  Re: Goff

zn127September 10, 2019 05:27AM