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The referenced article debunks the myth

May 09, 2019 04:19AM
I do recall this myth being repeated many times but I don't recall anyone actually diving into the numbers. Perhaps you can provide a link to such a thread. It would be an interesting read. In fact, this is the first time I've seen a thread that actually has the link to the article which makes sense since it doesn't support the myth, it actually debunks it.

About that article...

First off, anyone who says that "good teams spend 60% of the salary cap on their top 10 players" clearly didn't understand the article or statistics. It states that of the 224 team years between 2011-2017, only 8 teams used 60% or more of their salary cap on the top 10 players. So that is only 3.6% of time and that the average wins was only 5.5. So not only do teams NOT spend 60%+ on only 10 players, when they do the teams generally suck hard.

Note that the 11 win 2017 Rams is included in that 5.5 win average which brings the average for the other teams down. And the 2017 Rams are an anomaly since so many high impact players were on cheap rookie contracts - as made clear in the article.

So if you are going to take anything away from that article in relation to the 60% number it is DON'T DO IT. And especially don't spend 60% on only 8-9 people. YIKES.

Going back to the first table in that article, only 11.6% of teams spent 56-59% on the top 10. Their average wins were 9.2.
While 22.3% of teams (almost twice as many) spent only 52-55% with average wins of 8.9.
This is only .3 wins more, which is statistical noise with such a small sample size.

20.5% of teams spent between 48-51% on the top 10 with averages wins of 8.3 - less than a 1 game difference between those that spent 56-59%.
Going down one more grouping 22.8% of teams spent between 44-47% with average wins of 8.0.

So there are two more take aways from that first table (other than don't spend 60% or more on only 10 players).
* Most teams, 65.6%, actually fall into the 44-55% range (only 15.1% of teams were at 56%+ with about 19.2% being below 44%).
* The difference in wins is in the range that most teams fall into is only 1.2.
Statistically speaking, between 8.0 and 9.2 wins is just barely above average considering that average wins across all teams is 8.

The second table is more interesting and tells you more about where the "good" teams fall, using 10 wins as a measure for a "good" team.
13-15 win teams averaged 52.5%
11-12 win teams averaged about 50.4%
10 win teams averaged 51.8%

Again, there is some statistical noise here as we would expect the 11-12 win teams to have spent more than the 10 win teams. But what it does tell us is that "good" teams actually fall into a fairly narrow range of 50.4-52.5%.

Finally, your two examples of Carolina and Seattle use 2019 numbers. These examples are invalid because the rosters and final contracts are not set. Looking at those same two teams from last year, Carolina (7-9) comes in at 52.4% and Seattle (10-6) at 47.9%.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/09/2019 05:16AM by CeeZar.
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  rams free agency 2020

PHDram857May 08, 2019 08:50AM

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SoCalRAMatic246May 08, 2019 09:31AM

  Brockers is still in his prime time....

roman18257May 08, 2019 10:40AM

  Re: Brockers is still in his prime time....

Rams43236May 08, 2019 10:54AM

  Re: Brockers is still in his prime time....

PHDram230May 08, 2019 11:04AM

  There's the point I make about Brockers....

roman18220May 08, 2019 11:47AM

  Brockers is the last remaining player from the RG3 trade

Rams Junkie167May 09, 2019 08:31AM

  Re: Brockers is still in his prime time....

zn221May 08, 2019 04:10PM

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PARAM200May 09, 2019 01:46AM

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zn348May 09, 2019 05:55AM

  I think they extend Goff

ferragamo79341May 08, 2019 09:40AM

  That doesn't have to impact 2020's cap

AlbaNY_Ram243May 08, 2019 10:15AM

  4 years for $147 million?

jemach222May 08, 2019 04:05PM

  Re: 4 years for $147 million?

AlbaNY_Ram215May 08, 2019 06:59PM

  Exactly

zn185May 09, 2019 11:15AM

  Re: 4 years for $147 million?

reggae235May 08, 2019 10:34PM

  overthecap.com shows the Rams with over $64M for 2020

AlbaNY_Ram239May 08, 2019 09:57AM

  hope they are right

PHDram213May 08, 2019 10:33AM

  Here's the problem

AlbaNY_Ram271May 08, 2019 12:21PM

  Good work!

PHDram182May 09, 2019 03:56AM

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GroundPounder233May 08, 2019 10:20AM

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Classicalwit199May 08, 2019 11:28AM

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zn257May 08, 2019 12:52PM

  but is it true?

CeeZar223May 08, 2019 04:18PM

  Re: but is it true?

zn219May 08, 2019 05:53PM

  The referenced article debunks the myth

CeeZar265May 09, 2019 04:19AM

  no

zn189May 09, 2019 05:48AM

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PHDram178May 09, 2019 05:48AM

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zn180May 09, 2019 05:58AM

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CeeZar213May 09, 2019 06:27AM

  sure there is

PHDram210May 09, 2019 07:10AM

  Re: sure there is

CeeZar213May 09, 2019 07:55AM

  well there is evidence

PHDram172May 09, 2019 08:25AM

  Re: well there is evidence

CeeZar304May 09, 2019 10:02AM

  Excel, access to the internet, and too much time

PHDram173May 09, 2019 10:23AM

  uh oh...they are at 58 now

PHDram171May 09, 2019 09:15AM

  breaking this down, it's not very daunting

LMU93214May 09, 2019 05:24AM

  Sounds about right

BC Ramsfan225May 09, 2019 07:13AM

  i dont agree with alot of this tbh

PHDram258May 09, 2019 07:43AM