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I agree with you that McVay inherited a ton of talent. I've argued the same when they got rid of Fisher and after they picked up McVay.
But where I disagree with you is that you reduce it all to talent. It's more than that though. I'm gonna refrain from using a seven letter word that starts with a C and ends with an e...since I recall you don't like it.
All I will say is that it seems that McVay has changed the attitudes and mindsets of all of the players certainly and possibly even that of the entire organization.
All talented teams don't win. He's injected something special, some intangible that has greatly contributed to the turnaround. All IMO of course...
You're not really talking about what I am talking about.
My only point was the idea of the overnight turnaround. That's the central thing in everything I said. Cowherder goes on about how McVay has reset the bar on how quickly a team can be turned around. I think that's a false picture. A 2017 Rams team that did not already have a qb, a star RB, and a lot of other talent too would not have turned around
overnight. So making the assumption that hiring a McVay turns any team around overnight, is just plain bogus. No matter who the coach is, overnight turnarounds only happen with teams that are already talent-laden.
That had nothing to do with anything else about McVay. Or what he brings. The assumption is that McVay wins, period...it would just take longer with a real rebuild.
You somehow took that as diminishing what McVay brings, which is just a misread of that post and of what I think of McV as a coach.
On another topic altogether, I reject the business world borrowed buzzword "culture," and for many good reasons, but whatever a coach needs to bring with them beyond Xs and Os, it's clear McV has more than his share of that. But speaking of the empty media favorite buzzword, the "culture" Harbaugh brought to SF in 2011 was just plain bad (when he left players openly spoke out about being sick of his act). And of course the "culture" in Seattle's winning years was just plain toxic and divisive. So I think people over-rate all that. Now why did Harbaugh go to a conference game the year he was hired and it took Seattle 3 years to win? IE why was one an overnight turnaround and the other not? Easy. Both are good coaches, but, Harbaugh inherited a core of key players (especially on defense) and Carroll didn't. Both were good enough coaches to get to superbowls...but one could do it in year one and the other didn't start winning till he had a team, because one inherited key talent and the other didn't.
Leaving "cult-slaw" out of it, I think what McVay actually brings is instinctively good and intelligent leadership.
Anyway since my point was directly and specifically about
overnight turnarounds, that's just not connected to what I was discussing in that particular post.
BUT even given that I included hints that I don't think it's all about TALENT in general and in the longterm (overnight turnarounds aside). These statements from that post are not about "reducing it to talent only"
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So what lesson would McVay teach me as an owner? (Cause I do plan on being an owner some day. Soon as I have paid off my car.) Well...hire a bright offensive coach who ALSO knows how to maximize the potential not just of players but the other coaches too (Kromer has always been good for example but he has never done better).
If the 2017 Rams were a genuine and actual complete rebuild project. like what Vermeil inherited, we would see the potential but the results would not have been overnight.
So I said he would win anyway eventually even with a rebuild, and I said why--and it's not just X's and O's (
"a bright offensive coach who ALSO knows how to maximize the potential not just of players but the other coaches too.")
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2018 11:42PM by zn.
