September 10, 2018 06:29AM
Quote
max
Negatives [on Rogers]: Only 17-36 with a game-winning drive or comeback opportunity, a .321 winning percentage that’s by far the worst of this bunch, according to Scott Kacsmar of Football Outsiders.[/color][/b]

Negatives [on Ryan]: Only had seven INTs this season, but four came in losses — three in the final four minutes; another was a pick-6 late in the first half. Trailing by one possession in the fourth quarter, career passer rating is 81.9, with 16 TDs, 14 INTS. Just 2-4 in playoff games, with 7 INTs.

Lots to chew on here. But one thing stands out to me: the attribution of winning and losing to 1 player. Notice that AR is listed as having a ".321 winning percentage."

Of course, some QBs do develop a knack of stealing games late. That's undeniable. And it is true that a guy with a late-game-steal rep can intimidate the other guys and inspire his own, affecting performances.

It's also true that many variables affect the W/L apart from the QB's performance. I always think of Kurt who almost never won from behind when I was watching him. I dunno what he did in NY or AZ. But I do remember him in the SB with AZ coming back to take the lead very late and watching his defense blow the game. (Is my aging memory right on that?)

Now, I never felt that Kurt's lack of game steals was his fault. We were so often far ahead. And I don't recall him blowing late drives. Things just seemed not to click that way for him. There are so many variables at play and so many people have to do their jobs. It is always really hard for me to attribute W/L to a QB. (Same thing with pitchers in baseball.)

On the other hand, it can be useful to look at stats on a QB's performance in the situation. The stats on Ryan do that, and I think that's helpful. There absolutely can be a difference between a clutch guy and a guy who wilts a bit in the highest heat.

Right now, there is talk about Goff in these situations. I don't know that we have much real data, and he seems a bit under-defined in trying to win a game late. We'll see. But I'll be looking at his performance more than whether we win the game.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Interesting numbers on Rodgers

max899September 10, 2018 05:43AM

  Re: Interesting numbers on Rodgers

zn280September 10, 2018 06:27AM

  On Rodgers

NewMexicoRam248September 10, 2018 12:57PM

  actually

zn189September 10, 2018 01:25PM

  Tricky, tricky stuff. Makes me think of Kurt.

RFL204September 10, 2018 06:29AM

  I think it's completely valid

zn502September 10, 2018 06:36AM

  I know I should do this...

max124September 10, 2018 10:11AM

  OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

max175September 10, 2018 11:29AM

  good work sir nm

Speed_Kills68September 10, 2018 11:31AM

  Thx. It was eye opening. nm

max74September 10, 2018 11:31AM

  Excellent analysis...

jemach161September 10, 2018 12:02PM

  Re: Excellent analysis...

max150September 10, 2018 12:17PM

  Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

zn148September 10, 2018 12:51PM

  Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

max118September 10, 2018 01:03PM

  Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

zn94September 10, 2018 01:36PM

  Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

max102September 10, 2018 01:56PM

  Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

zn134September 10, 2018 02:26PM

  also

zn78September 10, 2018 01:11PM

  Eyeball test last Sunday, Rodgers failed that game.

max128September 19, 2018 11:43AM

  That can happen...

jemach83September 19, 2018 12:24PM

  Maybe, but his comeback record is bad as zn has said.

max302September 19, 2018 04:22PM

  compromise

zn81September 19, 2018 04:25PM

  nah, I think you were right the first time.

max88September 19, 2018 04:28PM

  Re: nah, I think you were right the first time.

zn144September 19, 2018 04:41PM

  Re: nah, I think you were right the first time.

max118September 19, 2018 05:05PM

  Re: nah, I think you were right the first time.

zn124September 19, 2018 05:09PM

  thx, and here’s one I just realized

max75September 20, 2018 03:27AM

  Re: thx, and here’s one I just realized

zn78September 20, 2018 04:00AM

  Re: thx, and here’s one I just realized

max76September 20, 2018 04:28AM

  Re: thx, and here’s one I just realized

Rams4375September 20, 2018 05:01AM

  Numbers on Rodgers: Not a Packers fan but he's a legend..

Anonymous User132September 10, 2018 02:16PM

  I agree with all that.

max85September 10, 2018 02:37PM

  Rodgers is the best player in NFL history

Rams_81138September 11, 2018 05:38PM

  Re: Rodgers is the best player in NFL history

waterfield145September 19, 2018 05:19PM

  Take a look at the teams Warner played for

stlramz192September 19, 2018 08:44PM

  Re: Take a look at the teams Warner played for

Rampage2K-132September 19, 2018 09:02PM

  Re: Take a look at the teams Warner played for

zn132September 19, 2018 09:37PM

  Warner stunk in the clutch

max159September 20, 2018 03:33AM

  Re: Warner stunk in the clutch.....wtf???

Rampage2K-116September 20, 2018 06:16AM

  Yeah, sound crazy right?

max123September 20, 2018 06:19AM

  Re: Yeah, sound crazy right?

Rampage2K-183September 20, 2018 06:22AM

  LOL! nm

max70September 20, 2018 06:23AM

  Re: Yeah, sound crazy right?

waterfield110September 20, 2018 07:06AM

  We can add another fail for Rodgers in the clutch

max75November 16, 2018 02:08AM