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Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

September 10, 2018 01:03PM
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The problem with that approach is that it is only meaningful if you compare it to every single other playoff qb.

And then you get to say, x percentage of the time, it's not their fall cause the defense caved.

But see all normal "comeback percentage" stats already account for that because they even things out. It's like completion percentage. Yeah if you look at individual series you can quibble with overall qb percentage. But it evens out for all situations and is a valid stat.

Otherwise all you did here was show me that Rodgers is the only qb who is so comeback efficient he would win all the time if he just weren't being let down by others.

A problem Brady doesn't have, interestingly.....

So it's just improbable stuff unless you show me that this is different from other qbs.

Heck for all you know you may find one that was ALWAYS let down by the defense and so has zero wins. cool smiley Would that guy be a better qb than Rodgers? (I deliberately flirt with the absurd here.)

So anyway no sorry don't buy it.

...

Do a quick easy test.

Pick a QB. Let's say Brady.

Have you ever seen him with the ball at the end of a playoff game with a chance to get the winning score and he doesn't come though? Well I can think of a couple right off the top of my head, including last year, and then again against the Giants.

Now pick another elite QB who is thought to be clutch, take Brees. Same thing.

That has not happened to Rodgers since his first playoff appearance in 2009.

My view is that my analysis makes perfect sense. And Rodgers is very clutch in the playoffs WHEN IT COUNTS THE MOST.

Also, and this is very important, just counting comeback wins is only counting numerators, its not enough, you need the the ORRECT denominator too. When someone says Rodgers only has 11 wins, that is meaning unless you tell me how many times he failed WITH THE BALL IN HIS HANDS, not just how many times he lost the game down by less than 8 points.



~ max ~
“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 09/10/2018 01:12PM by max.
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  Interesting numbers on Rodgers

max897September 10, 2018 05:43AM

  Re: Interesting numbers on Rodgers

zn280September 10, 2018 06:27AM

  On Rodgers

NewMexicoRam246September 10, 2018 12:57PM

  actually

zn188September 10, 2018 01:25PM

  Tricky, tricky stuff. Makes me think of Kurt.

RFL204September 10, 2018 06:29AM

  I think it's completely valid

zn498September 10, 2018 06:36AM

  I know I should do this...

max124September 10, 2018 10:11AM

  OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

max174September 10, 2018 11:29AM

  good work sir nm

Speed_Kills67September 10, 2018 11:31AM

  Thx. It was eye opening. nm

max74September 10, 2018 11:31AM

  Excellent analysis...

jemach161September 10, 2018 12:02PM

  Re: Excellent analysis...

max150September 10, 2018 12:17PM

  Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

zn148September 10, 2018 12:51PM

  Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

max117September 10, 2018 01:03PM

  Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

zn94September 10, 2018 01:36PM

  Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

max102September 10, 2018 01:56PM

  Re: OK. I did some numbers. VERY INTERESTING!!!

zn133September 10, 2018 02:26PM

  also

zn78September 10, 2018 01:11PM

  Eyeball test last Sunday, Rodgers failed that game.

max127September 19, 2018 11:43AM

  That can happen...

jemach83September 19, 2018 12:24PM

  Maybe, but his comeback record is bad as zn has said.

max301September 19, 2018 04:22PM

  compromise

zn81September 19, 2018 04:25PM

  nah, I think you were right the first time.

max88September 19, 2018 04:28PM

  Re: nah, I think you were right the first time.

zn144September 19, 2018 04:41PM

  Re: nah, I think you were right the first time.

max118September 19, 2018 05:05PM

  Re: nah, I think you were right the first time.

zn123September 19, 2018 05:09PM

  thx, and here’s one I just realized

max75September 20, 2018 03:27AM

  Re: thx, and here’s one I just realized

zn78September 20, 2018 04:00AM

  Re: thx, and here’s one I just realized

max75September 20, 2018 04:28AM

  Re: thx, and here’s one I just realized

Rams4374September 20, 2018 05:01AM

  Numbers on Rodgers: Not a Packers fan but he's a legend..

Anonymous User131September 10, 2018 02:16PM

  I agree with all that.

max84September 10, 2018 02:37PM

  Rodgers is the best player in NFL history

Rams_81137September 11, 2018 05:38PM

  Re: Rodgers is the best player in NFL history

waterfield145September 19, 2018 05:19PM

  Take a look at the teams Warner played for

stlramz192September 19, 2018 08:44PM

  Re: Take a look at the teams Warner played for

Rampage2K-131September 19, 2018 09:02PM

  Re: Take a look at the teams Warner played for

zn131September 19, 2018 09:37PM

  Warner stunk in the clutch

max159September 20, 2018 03:33AM

  Re: Warner stunk in the clutch.....wtf???

Rampage2K-115September 20, 2018 06:16AM

  Yeah, sound crazy right?

max123September 20, 2018 06:19AM

  Re: Yeah, sound crazy right?

Rampage2K-183September 20, 2018 06:22AM

  LOL! nm

max70September 20, 2018 06:23AM

  Re: Yeah, sound crazy right?

waterfield109September 20, 2018 07:06AM

  We can add another fail for Rodgers in the clutch

max75November 16, 2018 02:08AM