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Re: I need to see some things from Goff this year...

September 03, 2018 05:38AM
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jemach
Well, then Goff has a year to prove it. We face a tough schedule against some outstanding defenses.

I like Goff but he needs serious improvement to consider elite.

1. Needs to operate more freely at the line of scrimmage. (McVay is part of that equation)
2. Needs to see the field better.
3. Needs to throw receivers open.
4. Needs a better deep ball.
5. Needs to run a better two minute drill.
6. Needs to show he can come up big in Q4 against the best competition.

Goff has done a lot of good. The progression from year 1 and 2 was fantastic...although year 1 the OL about got him killed.

FWIW, I always liked Goff, even after year 1, when many, especially national media, were ready to call him a bust. I never gave up on him. I slightly preferred Goff over Wentz in the draft. I saw "flashes" (unlike Everett flashes) that made me think he just needed more support. So, I'm not coming from an anti-Goff position.

Goff doesn't make many mistakes and that is huge. I think he progresses this year but while you say he is all he is, he hasn't put up elite numbers and until he does, he is going to be viewed as a mid tier QB. That's a fact...not a feel.

Finally, anyone putting Goff in Rodgers territory at this time is not in reality IMO.

He has more than a year to prove it.

And this is a play-action team that is top 10 in running attempts. "Elite numbers" are a product of the coordinator, not the qb. So that would be the wrong place to look. (And besides I use the term "elite" very sparingly. I don't even count Rodgers as an elite qb because he has a very spotty record in clutch/comeback situations. So "elite" is just not the word I am going to use. In terms of stats I say "top." ) When it comes to that at what point in his career did Brady start putting up top stats? That's all around just the wrong thing to look at.

You have to actually go by his play on the field. Watching him.

In terms of your list of 6 things he's already doing all of that except #6. Something he shares with Rodgers but unlike Rodgers has a chance to grow out of it.

You're way too harsh on him. I don''t see you at all as being "more objective," you're just harsh. If you can't tell me the kinds of big great plays he's already proven he's capable of with his skill set, then you're judging him too severely and not watching him with an open enough mind.

Forget what the rest of the country is saying, they have no clue.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/03/2018 05:38AM by zn.
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jemach209September 03, 2018 04:52AM

  There’s plenty of room between Rodgers and many top QBs.

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  49ers suffering at RB now...

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  Re: 49ers suffering at RB now...

max224September 03, 2018 12:11PM

  Well...then you have no complaints! lol nm

jemach210September 03, 2018 12:15PM

  Never do

max243September 03, 2018 01:09PM

  Re: There’s plenty of room between Rodgers and many top QBs.

jemach178September 03, 2018 12:15PM

  Re: I need to see some things from Goff this year...

zn210September 03, 2018 05:38AM

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  Re: LOL...

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  If I were alone on this...

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max196September 04, 2018 05:54AM

  Ok...well then...

jemach201September 04, 2018 08:40AM

  Easy big fella...

max198September 04, 2018 08:51AM

  So what is the issue saying he needs to improve?

jemach584September 04, 2018 08:56AM

  Re: So what is the issue saying he needs to improve?

AlbaNY_Ram181September 04, 2018 09:17AM

  I see that...

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  Re: I see that...

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  That doesn't mean doubters exist...

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  Re: The key word was serious doubter....

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  Re: Confirmation bias...

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