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Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

July 27, 2018 12:26PM
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dzrams
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Rams43
Just to be clear, dz...

Are you saying that AD impacts a team’s winning as much as a starting QB?

Do I have that right?

I'm saying that AD impacts a team's winning as much as some starting QBs. Absolutely!

To be honest, some starting QBs impact their team in negative ways.

I've stated this before and got no responses: "This may be blasphemous, but I think AD's impact is near that of a quality QB (not an elite QB like Brady or Rodgers)." And then I followed that up with stats, showing how our D steadily climbed from 27th to top 10 in points allowed once AD came back last year.

I'd say the same for Von Miller in 2015/16. You can't tell me that ALL starting QBs impact the game more than he did in the 2016 SB. He was dominant.

You can't tell me that the Ravens QBs impacted the game more than Ray Lewis did in the early 2000s.

There are sometimes, non-QB players that impact the game more than all but the above average QBs.

Let me be clear. AD is a tremendous asset and is a big part of the Ram success last year.

But we definitely disagree about his relative impact on wins and losses compared to a starting QB. Even mediocre QB’s affect games in terms of W/L more than a DL player possibly could. Note, this could be on either a win or a loss. We are talking “impact” here, aren’t we?

IMO, of course.

Not gonna even try to make my case. Wouldn’t hardly know where to start. Maybe each and every snap? Lol.

We’re gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.
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  QB to non-QB contracts

max477July 27, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: QB to non-QB contracts

zn149July 27, 2018 04:32AM

  Re: QB to non-QB contracts

dzrams144July 27, 2018 04:43AM

  Re: QB to non-QB contracts

max142July 27, 2018 05:11AM

  IF the rumor of $25 vs $21 if factual...

jemach139July 27, 2018 06:57AM

  Just how much money is AD worth?

Rams43170July 27, 2018 05:21AM

  Re: Just how much money is AD worth?

max206July 27, 2018 05:42AM

  Re: Just how much money is AD worth?

zn161July 27, 2018 06:03AM

  Re: Just how much money is AD worth?

CeeZar172July 27, 2018 06:08AM

  Re: Just how much money is AD worth?

zn129July 27, 2018 06:22AM

  Re: Just how much money is AD worth?

dzrams136July 27, 2018 06:42AM

  I think he is pointing out

ferragamo79285July 27, 2018 06:46AM

  Re: I think he is pointing out

zn128July 27, 2018 07:14AM

  LOL

CeeZar126July 27, 2018 07:21AM

  you're missing the actual argument

zn126July 27, 2018 07:30AM

  Once again, you're missing the point

CeeZar143July 27, 2018 07:33AM

  character issues rarely stop teams

ferragamo79119July 27, 2018 07:46AM

  I don't know what the relevance of that is compared to the actual argument

zn138July 27, 2018 07:52AM

  just pointing character issues rarely have to do anything

ferragamo79126July 27, 2018 08:11AM

  I'm pointing out that this is a case where they do

zn174July 27, 2018 08:16AM

  again not comparing Haynesworth to AD at all

ferragamo79122July 27, 2018 08:26AM

  Okay gotcha

zn137July 27, 2018 08:45AM

  Re: you're missing the actual argument

Rams43115July 27, 2018 08:46AM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

dzrams249July 27, 2018 10:46AM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

Rams43114July 27, 2018 11:15AM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

dzrams127July 27, 2018 12:17PM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

Rams43111July 27, 2018 12:26PM

  Re: It appears I misread you...

dzrams144July 27, 2018 01:56PM

  Re: It appears I misread you...

Rams43134July 27, 2018 02:22PM

  RE: Fair enough...NM

dzrams113July 27, 2018 02:45PM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

zn117July 27, 2018 11:20AM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

Rams43225July 27, 2018 11:29AM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

k3181July 27, 2018 06:14PM

  Exactly

CeeZar142July 27, 2018 07:16AM

  Re: Exactly

zn120July 27, 2018 07:22AM

  Re: Still a HUGE difference...

dzrams123July 27, 2018 10:29AM

  PLEASE again not comparing Gilbert to AD

ferragamo79155July 27, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: PLEASE again not comparing Gilbert to AD

dzrams121July 27, 2018 10:59AM

  Re: PLEASE again not comparing Gilbert to AD

zn111July 27, 2018 11:03AM

  Nice work Max! nm

Atlantic Ram127July 27, 2018 02:50PM

  Thx. Confirms my belief...

max141July 28, 2018 03:20AM