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Re: Still a HUGE difference...

July 27, 2018 10:29AM
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ferragamo79
at the time they were considered top defensive players- especially Haynesworth. After both were paid huge contracts, they fizzled out.

Yes, they were both very good defensive players.

But IMO there is a clear distinction between top defensive player of the day and a once in a lifetime, generational player who most already say is a future HOF'er after only 4 seasons unless something gets derailed.

How many players could anyone ever say that about? Not Gilbert, not Haynesworth.

Reggie White is really the only apt comparison between the three names.

Moreover...AD is going to be paid primarily for an elite skillset: pass rushing. That is the highest premium skillset in the NFL today other than QB.

Neither Haynesworth or Gilbert even enter into the discussion when it comes to rushing the passer. Prior to 2008 when Haynesworth mustered 8.5 sacks, which is what earned him the huge contract, he had managed to average 2.58 sacks per season in the previous 6 years. He was more the traditional DT which isn't providing the ultra elite and most valuable skillset of pass rushing.

Gilbert got 42.5 sacks over his entire 11 year career. Donald has 40 in 4 years. RW was a pass rushing monster.

The two guys mentioned are simply not on the same level. It's like if we were comparing Matthew Stafford or Matt Ryan with Tom Brady. Both are currently ranked as a top QBs but neither are comparable to an all time great.

Their names shouldn't even be mentioned in the same paragraph. If we want a credible comparison for Brady, then we need to hear names like Manning and Montana.
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  QB to non-QB contracts

max474July 27, 2018 04:26AM

  Re: QB to non-QB contracts

zn148July 27, 2018 04:32AM

  Re: QB to non-QB contracts

dzrams143July 27, 2018 04:43AM

  Re: QB to non-QB contracts

max140July 27, 2018 05:11AM

  IF the rumor of $25 vs $21 if factual...

jemach137July 27, 2018 06:57AM

  Just how much money is AD worth?

Rams43169July 27, 2018 05:21AM

  Re: Just how much money is AD worth?

max205July 27, 2018 05:42AM

  Re: Just how much money is AD worth?

zn160July 27, 2018 06:03AM

  Re: Just how much money is AD worth?

CeeZar170July 27, 2018 06:08AM

  Re: Just how much money is AD worth?

zn128July 27, 2018 06:22AM

  Re: Just how much money is AD worth?

dzrams135July 27, 2018 06:42AM

  I think he is pointing out

ferragamo79284July 27, 2018 06:46AM

  Re: I think he is pointing out

zn127July 27, 2018 07:14AM

  LOL

CeeZar126July 27, 2018 07:21AM

  you're missing the actual argument

zn124July 27, 2018 07:30AM

  Once again, you're missing the point

CeeZar142July 27, 2018 07:33AM

  character issues rarely stop teams

ferragamo79118July 27, 2018 07:46AM

  I don't know what the relevance of that is compared to the actual argument

zn136July 27, 2018 07:52AM

  just pointing character issues rarely have to do anything

ferragamo79125July 27, 2018 08:11AM

  I'm pointing out that this is a case where they do

zn173July 27, 2018 08:16AM

  again not comparing Haynesworth to AD at all

ferragamo79121July 27, 2018 08:26AM

  Okay gotcha

zn135July 27, 2018 08:45AM

  Re: you're missing the actual argument

Rams43114July 27, 2018 08:46AM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

dzrams247July 27, 2018 10:46AM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

Rams43112July 27, 2018 11:15AM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

dzrams125July 27, 2018 12:17PM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

Rams43111July 27, 2018 12:26PM

  Re: It appears I misread you...

dzrams142July 27, 2018 01:56PM

  Re: It appears I misread you...

Rams43133July 27, 2018 02:22PM

  RE: Fair enough...NM

dzrams111July 27, 2018 02:45PM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

zn116July 27, 2018 11:20AM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

Rams43223July 27, 2018 11:29AM

  Re: I don't think this is accurate or that we all agree

k3181July 27, 2018 06:14PM

  Exactly

CeeZar141July 27, 2018 07:16AM

  Re: Exactly

zn119July 27, 2018 07:22AM

  Re: Still a HUGE difference...

dzrams122July 27, 2018 10:29AM

  PLEASE again not comparing Gilbert to AD

ferragamo79154July 27, 2018 10:35AM

  Re: PLEASE again not comparing Gilbert to AD

dzrams119July 27, 2018 10:59AM

  Re: PLEASE again not comparing Gilbert to AD

zn110July 27, 2018 11:03AM

  Nice work Max! nm

Atlantic Ram126July 27, 2018 02:50PM

  Thx. Confirms my belief...

max140July 28, 2018 03:20AM