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Goff is doing very well, but he’s not a top 10 QB just yet. And I think that’s fair.
Curley aside, that's just true I think. He can be a top 10 qb, and in the meanwhile you can certainly win with him, but as of this moment, he's not there yet. Can he get there this year? Maybe. I do expect it sooner or later but I'm not willing to put a timeframe on it.
LAST YEAR he was a top 10 QB, in fact he was top 5 in some of the more important QB stats.
Some people want to give McVay all the credit and say it was a fluke, but numbers don't lie and according to most of the QB stats and ratings he IS a top 10 QB.... in his first year in a new system no less.
23 year old in his first year in a real offense, he absolutely killed it....Bill Polian said the other day that he hardly ever sees what Goff did as a young QB in his first year in a new system.
Being ranked #38 by his peers says a lot imo... the guys that actually play the game, know he can play the game.
I don't doubt he can play the game and in fact I was probably the first one here to say he already was a franchise qb. I said it in Sept. too. [
ramsrule.com]
Where I need to see improvement is clutch play and games against strong opponents.
In terms of clutch play, there actually is a stat that ranks your completion percentage from situations where it is late in the game and the score is close. Officially it;s called
%Passes Completed, Late & Close. With that Goff had a 45.3% completion rate which ranked 31st in the league. To be fair that covers just 53 of his 477 passes but still. ( That stat is here btw: [
stats.washingtonpost.com] ).
In terms of playing strong opponents, by my count they did that 5 times last year. That would be winning teams with good offenses and top 10 defenses. Last year that would be Jax, Minn, New Orleans, Phil, and Atlanta. In those the Rams went 2-3. Those games weren't all on Goff by any means. But either way he arguably played consistently well--and up to his own standards from other games--in just one of them: New Orleans. In Phil he was good for much of the game but then the offense had the ball twice with 8 minutes or less in the game and could have put the game away or taken the lead back. Both times the offense did nothing. So I would not count the Phil game as a consistent one from Goff, even though of course the L doesn't go to Goff alone.
Goff did have a comeback against the Titans but that was a 9-7 team with a 23rd ranked offense so it wasn't the challenge of the other games.
Short version: I need to see him be consistently better in top games and clutch situations. When he does that I will think he has become a top qb.
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I just realized that whole post repeats stuff I already said in this thread.
Anyway.
I don't use raw pure stats to determine if a qb is top 10 yet.
I mentioned the difference between the tough games and the others.
Well these are Goff's numbers in the 5 games I designated as tough ones (Jax, Minn, N.O., Phil, ATL): 59.3% completions. That would have ranked 28th.Qb rating of 90.17 with games of 3 games below 90 and 2 games below 80. That rating would have ranked 16th.
And these are his numbers in the other 10 games he started last year: 63.6% completions. That would have ranked 13th.Qb rating of 113.47. That rating would have ranked 1st.
I think part of his normal development will be to become better and more consistent in those tough games and close game situations, and then to me he will be a top 10 qb. Unless he does that then no numbers or media endorsements will persuade me he has reached that level yet.
Can he do it? Of course he can. The only question is when .
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/20/2018 05:48AM by zn.