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Re: to be fair I agree with this

June 19, 2018 11:17AM
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Goff is doing very well, but he’s not a top 10 QB just yet. And I think that’s fair.

Curley aside, that's just true I think. He can be a top 10 qb, and in the meanwhile you can certainly win with him, but as of this moment, he's not there yet. Can he get there this year? Maybe. I do expect it sooner or later but I'm not willing to put a timeframe on it.

LAST YEAR he was a top 10 QB, in fact he was top 5 in some of the more important QB stats.
Some people want to give McVay all the credit and say it was a fluke, but numbers don't lie and according to most of the QB stats and ratings he IS a top 10 QB.... in his first year in a new system no less.

23 year old in his first year in a real offense, he absolutely killed it....Bill Polian said the other day that he hardly ever sees what Goff did as a young QB in his first year in a new system.
Being ranked #38 by his peers says a lot imo... the guys that actually play the game, know he can play the game.

I don't doubt he can play the game and in fact I was probably the first one here to say he already was a franchise qb. I said it in Sept. too. [ramsrule.com]

Where I need to see improvement is clutch play and games against strong opponents.

In terms of clutch play, there actually is a stat that ranks your completion percentage from situations where it is late in the game and the score is close. Officially it;s called %Passes Completed, Late & Close. With that Goff had a 45.3% completion rate which ranked 31st in the league. To be fair that covers just 53 of his 477 passes but still. ( That stat is here btw: [stats.washingtonpost.com] ).

In terms of playing strong opponents, by my count they did that 5 times last year. That would be winning teams with good offenses and top 10 defenses. Last year that would be Jax, Minn, New Orleans, Phil, and Atlanta. In those the Rams went 2-3. Those games weren't all on Goff by any means. But either way he arguably played consistently well--and up to his own standards from other games--in just one of them: New Orleans. In Phil he was good for much of the game but then the offense had the ball twice with 8 minutes or less in the game and could have put the game away or taken the lead back. Both times the offense did nothing. So I would not count the Phil game as a consistent one from Goff, even though of course the L doesn't go to Goff alone.

Goff did have a comeback against the Titans but that was a 9-7 team with a 23rd ranked offense so it wasn't the challenge of the other games.

Short version: I need to see him be consistently better in top games and clutch situations. When he does that I will think he has become a top qb.







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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06/19/2018 11:21AM by zn.
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  Aquib Talib explains how Goff compares to Brady and Peyton Manning...

Rams431040June 16, 2018 07:17AM

  Its possible but that is way ahead of current reality

Rams_81366June 16, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: Its possible but that is way ahead of current reality

SoCalRAMatic365June 16, 2018 08:45AM

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XXXIVwin336June 17, 2018 12:16AM

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Killrazor331June 17, 2018 01:32AM

  Re: Its possible but that is way ahead of current reality

AlbaNY_Ram332June 17, 2018 04:41AM

  You keep saying you want him to show he can come from behind....

roman18250June 17, 2018 02:43AM

  Re: You keep saying you want him to show he can come from behind....

zn405June 17, 2018 04:02AM

  Re: Aquib Talib explains how Goff compares to Brady and Peyton Manning...

David Deacon292June 17, 2018 03:36AM

  Re: Aquib Talib explains how Goff compares to Brady and Peyton Manning...

zn307June 17, 2018 04:07AM

  curley said a lot of things...

max409June 17, 2018 04:17AM

  that's not my take bu that's okay

zn259June 17, 2018 04:36AM

  to be fair I agree with this

zn235June 17, 2018 05:01PM

  Re: to be fair I agree with this

max232June 17, 2018 05:29PM

  Goff will be the 10th ranked QB on top 100 list...

max332June 19, 2018 07:37AM

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Rampage2K-228June 19, 2018 10:25AM

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zn321June 19, 2018 11:17AM

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zn218June 20, 2018 05:39AM

  According to NFL players, Goff is #10 QB

max251June 19, 2018 03:52PM

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Rampage2K-201June 19, 2018 08:17PM

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max345June 20, 2018 07:49AM

  Re: According to NFL players, Goff is #10 QB

zn270June 20, 2018 12:21PM

  I can’t remember the last time I agreed with him

max206June 20, 2018 12:30PM

  Re: I can’t remember the last time I agreed with him

zn235June 20, 2018 12:37PM

  Re: According to NFL players, Goff is #10 QB

Steve309June 22, 2018 06:39AM

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zn217June 22, 2018 06:55AM

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Rams43305June 22, 2018 08:16AM

  Re: curley said a lot of things...

Classicalwit416June 17, 2018 04:55PM

  Re: curley said a lot of things...

Rampage2K-230June 21, 2018 08:58PM

  Re: curley said a lot of things...

max327June 21, 2018 09:25PM

  Re: curley said a lot of things...

zn197June 22, 2018 04:16AM

  True but theres more...

max226June 22, 2018 04:59AM

  Re: True but theres more...

zn219June 22, 2018 05:16AM

  Goff vs Wentz to me lacks any meaning to me

Rams_81314June 17, 2018 10:33AM

  I obsessed over Manning/Leaf...ended up as a dud

c1ram281June 17, 2018 04:28PM

  Champ Bailey Torry Holt

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