March 13, 2018 06:39PM
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Well to be fair, last year at this time, you said that Donald would be good in this 3-4 but not nearly as good as he had been in the 4-3. I recall the name Jurrell Casey coming up as a comp....
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I also laughed when someone on radio suggested he could be a nose
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The only time I mentioned anything close to what you suggest is this
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"Donald, IMO, is better than Casey, but in terms of sacks, there is a possibility that his production will go down. But, if Rams win, no one will care, If our SAM and WILL players get 10 sacks each and the inside pressure caused by Donald helps them, then it's all and good."

I said POSSIBILITY that production will go down. It was in response to someone asking about things. A first blush it didn't seem like a scheme fit but almost immediately posted on the implications of the 3-4 and how it would be implemented, here is one from when Wade was rumored to be hired.
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So, I suggest you be fair and accurately post what I said rather than twist it.


"Jurrell Casey in tenny, he is in exact same situation, a 3-tech in a one-gap 3-4 and he makes great money but the things he does are more subtle and he doesn't put up the same kinds of sacks and tackles for loss as he did when they were in a 4-3.

Maybe Donald will be an exception, he has the talent for it, but I would doubt he'd be a 10-sack, 10-stuff guy in Phillips's defense."


http://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,570634,570808#msg-570808

Here you were stating that Donald like Casey was going from a 4-3 to 3-4, that Casey had lesser stats b/c of the transition, and that AD could possibly not trend downward in production but you doubted that he would match his former production.

Of course, the most important part is the overall context of the thread being that you would accept a trade for him because he would presumably have lower production in Phillip's defense.

I was recalling what you said off of the top of my head, not intending to misrepresent you, but I do believe I captured the essence of what you were saying.

Since you obviously searched, it's interesting to me that you didn't find and quote from this post.

So, I suggest you be fair and accurately post your own words.

At any rate, my point wasn't about your doubts of Donald's fit so I'm not gonna spend much time arguing about the meaning of your words. Just know, I wasn't trying to twist them and don't think I did mis-characterize the spirit of them.

My point was to state that Donald was better, not worse. It was that greatness often supersedes scheme fit. The same could happen with Suh.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Maybe Suh not a terrible idea?

spagsbacker1090March 13, 2018 03:48PM

  Re: Maybe Suh not a terrible idea?

Classicalwit386March 13, 2018 03:56PM

  Wait...that was my post!

jemach372March 13, 2018 04:06PM

  Re: It will be a "Sign both" move.......Donald and Suh.

oldschoolramfan229March 19, 2018 05:30AM

  One can only hope...

jemach525March 19, 2018 05:34AM

  terrible idea, does not fit scheme

Blue and Gold355March 13, 2018 04:19PM

  Re: terrible idea, does not fit scheme

dzrams270March 13, 2018 04:43PM

  I said playing him as a 3-4 DE would be disaster

Blue and Gold588March 13, 2018 05:42PM

  Re: That ain't all you said bro....

dzrams274March 13, 2018 06:39PM

  And Donald wasn't a 10-sack, 10-stuff guy Attachments

Blue and Gold377March 13, 2018 06:51PM

  Re: If that's all you were focused on fine...

dzrams217March 13, 2018 07:05PM

  Do you see anything other than sacks and stuffs?.

Blue and Gold242March 13, 2018 07:12PM

  Based on what?

Blue and Gold267March 13, 2018 05:44PM

  Re: Based on what?

bigjimram21239March 13, 2018 06:10PM

  No reason to force anything

Blue and Gold239March 13, 2018 06:14PM

  Re: it's definitely not as foolish a thought as you say...

spagsbacker300March 14, 2018 12:29AM

  Aside from Dickerson lobbying for it what else is there?

Blue and Gold204March 14, 2018 12:40AM

  Re: Based on what?

dzrams243March 13, 2018 06:40PM

  No, it wasn't

Blue and Gold229March 13, 2018 06:57PM

  Re: It should have been, it was only 4 lines

dzrams241March 13, 2018 07:10PM

  Well, "better than ever" is an opinion I don't share

Blue and Gold238March 13, 2018 07:16PM

  Re: That's fair...I don't mind you having a different opinion...

dzrams382March 13, 2018 07:25PM

  Of course, anyone can be wrong

Blue and Gold228March 13, 2018 07:39PM

  Re: Of course, anyone can be wrong

dzrams251March 13, 2018 08:23PM

  Then why were his stuffs down?

Blue and Gold216March 13, 2018 08:52PM

  Re: Over a full season, who cares...

dzrams430March 13, 2018 09:45PM

  One last time Attachments

Blue and Gold217March 14, 2018 02:59PM

  Re: I responded to this last night, and both got deleted...Let's agree to disagree

dzrams172March 14, 2018 03:16PM

  I didn't see it

Blue and Gold170March 14, 2018 03:36PM

  Re: I know...that's b/c they both got deleted... Lol

dzrams226March 14, 2018 03:57PM

  That's fine

Blue and Gold230March 14, 2018 04:02PM

  hey B&G...a question....bout NT in Wade's defense....

SunTzu_vs_Camus291March 13, 2018 10:45PM

  No, a nose tackle in the base defense does not have

Blue and Gold326March 13, 2018 11:08PM

  interesting...thnx B&G

SunTzu_vs_Camus362March 13, 2018 11:17PM

  I think the times we were gashed

Blue and Gold246March 13, 2018 11:28PM

  it's only from stuff I read bout his rosters along with the guys you posted about....

SunTzu_vs_Camus362March 13, 2018 11:33PM

  Our LBs weren't physical enough...

jemach172March 14, 2018 05:01PM

  My observation was they got wired to blockers

Blue and Gold215March 14, 2018 06:43PM

  Zine It !!!

RamsFanSince69200March 14, 2018 05:20AM

  Re: definitely NOT a terrible idea...

spagsbacker300March 14, 2018 12:42AM

  No

Blue and Gold280March 14, 2018 10:58AM

  Re: Maybe you need to give Snead a lesson?

spagsbacker226March 19, 2018 04:40AM

  C'mon man...

jemach233March 19, 2018 04:49AM

  Re: C'mon man...

spagsbacker226March 19, 2018 04:56AM

  I think signing Suh...

jemach202March 19, 2018 05:08AM

  Re: You're missing the point...

dzrams233March 19, 2018 05:34AM

  Go back to initial response...

jemach206March 19, 2018 05:41AM

  Re: Still missing the point...

dzrams218March 19, 2018 06:07AM

  Apparantly I misunderstood that "spare me" comment...

jemach189March 19, 2018 06:40AM

  Re: Thanks DZ...

spagsbacker204March 19, 2018 05:49AM

  Re:Question my fine feathered friend......

laram176March 19, 2018 06:12AM

  Re: Re:Question my fine feathered friend......

dzrams213March 19, 2018 07:40AM

  Re: Last hooray....

laram225March 19, 2018 08:00AM

  And in another thread I said I would ADMIT

Blue and Gold200March 19, 2018 12:15PM

  You really think Wade would OK Suh if he didn't have a plan for him?

RamBum244March 19, 2018 04:51AM

  Fantastic dialogue in this thread

no name210March 19, 2018 07:49AM

  the problem with him is his ill timing penalties

Rams_81225March 19, 2018 07:52AM