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Re: C'mon dz....

March 09, 2018 08:31AM
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scares the crap out of me with these moves

Why think of the 2011 Eagles? Why not the 2017 Eagles?

Last year the Eagles built their team by trading for established vets too. Recently, the most competitive teams have been building via trades and major free agent moves.

Did they build it with low character guys? NO

Long, Jefferey, Blount, Torrey Smith, Ajayi none of them have anything approaching the players the Rams brought in.

Valid point.

To the extent that those guys are actually low character.

They are strong personalities. And passionate. And those qualities have gotten them in trouble.

But they were also both very beloved in the locker room. Hard workers.

Maybe the Rams don't consider them low character.

Don't compromise your integrity because your favorite team is involved..

Talib has rap sheet as long as your arm.

He also intentionally poked a player in the eye that cost his team overtime and a possible win.

The dude has multiple PF's, fines and he was once arrested for threatening somebody's life with a gun.

Drunk and shot himself with a gun.

I've seen this dude at SB parties many, many times.

He's straight TRASH Duke!!

Not for you per se but people have issues with black athletes taking a knee over the inequalities in the justice system , but openly accept these THUGS because they might help their favorite team win!

Its disgusting!!

I can see how you would have that response. I think I could have done a better job making my point.

I was trying to provide a context.

Let me illustrate... say I was a talented musician in a local band. I work hard at my craft, I'm passionate, I mentor young up and coming musicians. I'm a positive influence where music is involved. Outside of that context I'm a low life with a rap sheet a mile long.

In regular life, I could be considered low character. (This is a made up story BTW, Lol.) But in the context of the band/music, that is not the case.

The point is, low character in what context? If he works hard, if his teammates love him - and in the case of Talib his previous coach in Wade loved him too, if his passion inspires the younger players to give their best, and yes if he's even looked upon as a leader, then maybe he's not as low character in the locker room as you're stating.

OTOH, if his teammates hate him, if his coaches hate him, if he can't get along with anyone, if he never submits to authority, if he's lazy, if he's not a hard worker, if he only plays football for money and is not passionate about the game, if he's completely self-centered (Me not we), those are "low character" qualities that will negatively affect a team.

We touched on this in the Peters trade in our discussion that all character issues are not equal. It's why I asked yesterday if you could tell me how shooting yourself in the thigh affects football games.

On a personal level, I don't look at these guys as role models. I don't root for them because they're great people. The corollary to that is, apart from a few exceptions like killing people, what type of character they are outside of the locker room isn't something I'm concerned with.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  keep thinking about the Dream Team

shellback1147March 09, 2018 07:27AM

  Re: Yep one of the most recent examples I had in mind...NM

laram388March 09, 2018 07:35AM

  Re: Why?

dzrams351March 09, 2018 07:41AM

  Re: Why?

laram537March 09, 2018 07:44AM

  lol

PHDram342March 09, 2018 07:53AM

  Re:Did I say that?

laram306March 09, 2018 07:54AM

  Re: Re:Did I say that?

Rampage2K-277March 09, 2018 08:02AM

  i read what you wrote

PHDram263March 09, 2018 08:07AM

  Re: Re:Did I say that?

bigjimram21256March 09, 2018 09:40AM

  Re: Why?

Rampage2K-320March 09, 2018 07:54AM

  Re: Why?

dzrams269March 09, 2018 07:57AM

  Re: C'mon dz....

laram291March 09, 2018 08:04AM

  Re: C'mon dz....

dzrams331March 09, 2018 08:31AM

  Re: dz lately man you are on ....

Speed_Kills269March 09, 2018 08:50AM

  Re: Thanks my friend! (NM)

dzrams233March 09, 2018 09:37AM

  Re: C'mon dz....

laram303March 09, 2018 08:54AM

  Re: C'mon dz....

dzrams267March 09, 2018 09:36AM

  Amen laram!

six2stack265March 10, 2018 08:20AM

  Re: Why?

Rams43263March 09, 2018 08:06AM

  im a little surprised

PHDram271March 09, 2018 08:12AM

  Re: Me too...

dzrams276March 09, 2018 08:42AM

  c'mon

zn284March 09, 2018 08:54AM

  Re: lucked into Whitworth?

Speed_Kills324March 09, 2018 09:00AM

  yes in this sense

zn313March 09, 2018 09:04AM

  Re: Good point zn...NM

laram292March 09, 2018 09:06AM

  Re: yes in this sense

Rams43249March 09, 2018 09:20AM

  Re: lol

Speed_Kills522March 09, 2018 09:26AM

  Re: lol

stlramz256March 09, 2018 10:53AM

  man dz isn't the only one on fire today lol nm

Speed_Kills329March 09, 2018 11:12AM

  Re: disagree

Speed_Kills440March 09, 2018 09:25AM

  We lucked into McVay

stlramz249March 09, 2018 10:30AM

  nope

zn267March 09, 2018 10:34AM

  Re: Wade?...

laram256March 09, 2018 10:42AM

  Re: Wade?...

stlramz247March 09, 2018 10:51AM

  Re: Fair enough....NM

laram386March 09, 2018 11:15AM

  Re: This times 1000...

dzrams243March 09, 2018 11:18AM

  Re: This times 1000...

Ram Fan Teacher283March 09, 2018 11:36AM

  missing the point (by a lot) -:)

zn314March 09, 2018 09:12PM

  Re: Wade?...

VANRAM363March 09, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: We lucked into McVay

Rams43249March 09, 2018 11:18AM

  Re: lucked into Whitworth?

Rampage2K-514March 09, 2018 09:18AM

  +1 R2K

Ram Fan Teacher235March 09, 2018 09:49AM

  Re: So one year with a winning record is a culture?

laram258March 09, 2018 10:20AM

  Re: So one year with a winning record is a culture?

Ram Fan Teacher235March 09, 2018 10:59AM

  Re: So one year with a winning record is a culture?

Speed_Kills296March 09, 2018 11:14AM

  Hey!

Ram Fan Teacher372March 09, 2018 11:19AM

  Re: So one year with a winning record is a culture?

Rams43239March 09, 2018 11:20AM

  which post does one respond to in a pile-on? Tough choice.

zn259March 09, 2018 10:16AM

  if you consider that luck

PHDram256March 09, 2018 10:37AM

  Re: which post does one respond to in a pile-on? Tough choice.

Rampage2K-307March 09, 2018 10:58AM

  no

zn251March 09, 2018 11:54AM

  Re: no

Ram Fan Teacher245March 09, 2018 12:04PM

  Re: no

zn236March 09, 2018 12:07PM

  Re: no

Ram Fan Teacher246March 09, 2018 12:24PM

  I started all this with a quip

zn255March 09, 2018 01:08PM

  Good reply zn

Ram Fan Teacher228March 09, 2018 01:22PM

  Re: Many pro players would disagree with you.....

laram367March 09, 2018 02:11PM

  Re: no

bigjimram21421March 09, 2018 12:41PM

  Re: No they didn't have to cut him...

laram231March 09, 2018 12:46PM

  Re: No they didn't have to cut him...

bigjimram21232March 09, 2018 01:00PM

  Re:But lucky that Cincy notorious for being cheap and dumb!!i..NM

laram266March 09, 2018 01:16PM

  Re: Re:But lucky that Cincy notorious for being cheap and dumb!!i..NM

bigjimram21204March 10, 2018 01:20PM

  Re: which post does one respond to in a pile-on? Tough choice.

VANRAM243March 09, 2018 12:51PM

  Re: c'mon

dzrams360March 09, 2018 09:20AM

  Re: Wait...what???

RamsFanSinceLA252March 09, 2018 11:43AM

  agreed

PHDram254March 09, 2018 09:01AM

  Re: Me too...

Rams43242March 09, 2018 09:04AM

  Re: Wow

dzrams256March 09, 2018 09:39AM

  OK guys...

jemach266March 09, 2018 11:48AM

  you complete me

ferragamo79358March 09, 2018 11:51AM

  I'm going to leave now...

jemach237March 09, 2018 11:53AM

  That's funny. Nm.

stlramz211March 09, 2018 02:17PM

  Re: OK guys...

RamsFanSinceLA274March 09, 2018 11:52AM

  Ok...

jemach378March 09, 2018 12:42PM

  Re: OK guys...

Rams43235March 09, 2018 12:08PM

  So the alternative would be

Ram_Ruler248March 09, 2018 07:42AM

  Re: keep thinking about the Dream Team

Rampage2K-2069March 09, 2018 07:51AM