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this time is no different

February 03, 2018 04:45PM
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merlin
What I mean is that the will of the players will fail and they'll get an agreement done that favors the owners. I'm not all-in with the owners or anything. I simply EXPECT both sides to duke it out and the owners will win. Of course I don't think the union will be literally broken.

We'll see how this goes. I'm not going to get too much into the details at this juncture because there's a ways to go, and there will undoubtedly be some changes in expectations and desires on both sides by the time this thing goes live.

All Smith said is that any 3rd party who expects the union and NFL to be harmonious is mistaken. (Like always) it will be a war. Like last time when the NFL decided in advance to lock the players out.

You seem to think the union can't win fights. Well...they have. The NFL would not be the NFL we know right now if the union was so easy to beat. They've won on their share of issues.

So, no, the owners have not always won across the history of their conflicts. Again...the NFL would not be what it is now if they had been dominant that way.

And to be doubly clear on my initial point, Smith wasn't declaring war on the owners. He was saying that their conflicts are always, mutually, war.

I get into the issues now because that's how I decide where I stand on things. I don't go "yay owners!" or "yay players" in some automatic way. I go, well who wants what and what are those issues. So for example, should issues of discipline reside solely with the league office? That's the only important thing. What are the issues.
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  DeMaurice Smith: NFLPA will approach 2021 talks like 'war'

RFIP886February 01, 2018 03:46PM

  Re: DeMaurice Smith: NFLPA will approach 2021 talks like 'war'

den-the-coach267February 02, 2018 03:03AM

  Makes you wonder if ol' Vince McNahon planned it that way...

jemach200February 02, 2018 03:45PM

  Yep. Polarized and angry just like everything else.

RockRam259February 02, 2018 03:23AM

  Re: Yep. Polarized and angry just like everything else.

den-the-coach244February 02, 2018 03:47AM

  Re: Yep. Polarized and angry just like everything else.

RamsFanSinceLA235February 02, 2018 07:26AM

  Good grief - and to think he has power

RamUK284February 02, 2018 03:41AM

  Re: Good grief - and to think he has power

den-the-coach262February 02, 2018 03:50AM

  I hope they keep a salary cap

BigGame81262February 02, 2018 07:57AM

  I don't think that's on them

zn246February 02, 2018 08:19AM

  My Scenario

troublefree252February 02, 2018 08:21AM

  He's failed the players on a few levels

promomasterj218February 02, 2018 08:36AM

  Competitive balance

RFIP169February 03, 2018 10:36AM

  Way to go DeMaurice Smith!!! What a tool!!!

Rampage2K-219February 02, 2018 09:06AM

  Yada yada yada...

jemach341February 02, 2018 03:49PM

  I am not anti-union and not anti-player in this player/management thing

zn226February 02, 2018 03:53PM

  Re: DeMaurice Smith: NFLPA will approach 2021 talks like 'war'

headslapper205February 03, 2018 01:05AM

  Re: DeMaurice Smith: NFLPA will approach 2021 talks like 'war'

stlramz202February 03, 2018 02:04PM

  Re: DeMaurice Smith: NFLPA will approach 2021 talks like 'war'

RFIP154February 04, 2018 02:15AM

  Re: DeMaurice Smith: NFLPA will approach 2021 talks like 'war'

Rams43158February 04, 2018 07:04AM

  Re: IF that happens the owners will break them

merlin211February 03, 2018 09:11AM

  you're misreading

zn215February 03, 2018 11:14AM

  Re: when I say they'll break the union

merlin229February 03, 2018 04:30PM

  this time is no different

zn201February 03, 2018 04:45PM

  Re: you're misreading_loving your take on this

BumRap319February 03, 2018 04:41PM

  MLB preparing for a "war" also (nm)

waterfield235February 03, 2018 11:11AM

  Of course. Anger and polarization are the mood of our time.

RockRam151February 04, 2018 06:41AM