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November 17, 2017 10:50AM
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My guess it was Snead who was the one who was smart enough to get the ball rolling on the trade up.

Snead did not have the power to do that. Fisher had contractually guaranteed final say. The GM reported to the coach, not the other way around.

And so here's the GM and the head coach and the coordinators meeting after the season. And they go, well what do we need. And they go, a qb. So the question becomes, how. Trade? Free agency? How about trading up for a top rookie? UNLESS the GM and head coach agreed on that it was never going to happen. Though if anyone had the power to mandate it, it was the head coach, because of his final say power.

And so we know what happened next. They went on the road and worked out the 2 qbs. As the record shows, Fisher liked Goff.

Then, and only then, did Snead go out and try to make the trade happen. As GM he did the negotiating and nuts and bolts stuff with things like that. We know how this went (the mechanics of the trade) because there was a multi-page, very much in depth MMQB article about the trade process with the Titans and how it went.

We don't have to guess about these things. They left a very fat, long record of how they did these things.


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I agree Fisher had final say, but I can definitely see Snead as the initiator of the idea and the trade.


funny How things change around here....last year people were trying to place blame for this move and Goff, now it seems they're trying to figure out who to give credit to? lol3

But you see, you may SEE that, but it in the reality it was actually not possible.

If Snead initiated the trade it would take this form---he would have to talk Fisher into liking the idea and wanting to do it.

He had absolutely no power or authority to make a trade independent of Fisher's okaying it and having input.

In fact Snead has final say NOW and he STILL doesnt' just flat come up with and then implement trades on his own. No GM in his right mind foists an important player on a coach--that way lies madness.

In fact you want to know one famous example of a team trying it that way? Years ago, it was Minnesotta management and ownership that wanted Hershell Walker, not the coaches. And that trade stands out big in NFL history as an example of why you just do not want to do things that way.

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Huh???

How is it not possible that Snead was the one who INITIATED the trade???

What do you think talking to Fisher about the possibility of it is?

What I of course mean was that by contract he did not have the organizational authority to initiate and complete a trade on his own. That is what "final say" MEANS.

And look at my words. At one point we're saying the same thing.

ME: If Snead initiated the trade it would take this form---he would have to talk Fisher into liking the idea and wanting to do it.

YOU: What do you think talking to Fisher about the possibility of it is?


So if that's all you meant I have that covered already. cool smiley

Personally, as long as we're floating around in the middle of sheer speculation that more or less just comes from our own emotional preferences, my guess is that no one initiated it, or rather everyone did--it was an obvious topic of conversation in the off-season and that when it first came up everyone just automatically agreed that IF they liked the 2 qbs that was the way to go.



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  Who initiated the trade up for QB?

max387November 17, 2017 03:51AM

  wrong question

zn188November 17, 2017 04:25AM

  We see this one totally differently

max138November 17, 2017 04:59AM

  Re: We see this one totally differently

zn167November 17, 2017 05:45AM

  Re: We see this one totally differently

max188November 17, 2017 06:07AM

  Re: wrong question

dzrams110November 17, 2017 11:28AM

  Re: wrong question

Rampage2K-109November 17, 2017 11:31AM

  Re: wrong question

dzrams94November 17, 2017 11:33AM

  Who cares?

Rampage2K-139November 17, 2017 07:31AM

  Re: Who cares?

zn105November 17, 2017 09:25AM

  Re: Who cares?

Rams43128November 17, 2017 09:42AM

  Re: Who cares?

Rampage2K-126November 17, 2017 09:44AM

  Re: Who cares?

zn135November 17, 2017 10:26AM

  Re: Who cares?

Rampage2K-105November 17, 2017 10:32AM

  Re: Who cares?

zn114November 17, 2017 10:50AM

  Re: Who cares?

Rampage2K-97November 17, 2017 11:17AM

  Re: Who cares?

zn197November 17, 2017 11:49AM

  You don't care, except you're patting yourself on the back. LOL!!!

max156November 17, 2017 10:15AM

  Re: You don't care, except you're patting yourself on the back. LOL!!!

Rampage2K-106November 17, 2017 10:29AM

  I agree with that in part

zn109November 17, 2017 12:08PM

  Not what I said

zn108November 17, 2017 11:56AM

  You're misreading...

max110November 17, 2017 12:12PM

  you're misreading

zn119November 17, 2017 12:30PM

  It was me. You're welcome.

RamFanEsq104November 17, 2017 07:32AM

  We will probably never know for sure...

Rams43110November 17, 2017 09:26AM

  Re: We will probably never know for sure...

Rampage2K-107November 17, 2017 10:34AM

  Thats a very reasonable take, IMO.

max108November 17, 2017 10:38AM