Re: Who cares?

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My guess it was Snead who was the one who was smart enough to get the ball rolling on the trade up.

Snead did not have the power to do that. Fisher had contractually guaranteed final say. The GM reported to the coach, not the other way around.

And so here's the GM and the head coach and the coordinators meeting after the season. And they go, well what do we need. And they go, a qb. So the question becomes, how. Trade? Free agency? How about trading up for a top rookie? UNLESS the GM and head coach agreed on that it was never going to happen. Though if anyone had the power to mandate it, it was the head coach, because of his final say power.

And so we know what happened next. They went on the road and worked out the 2 qbs. As the record shows, Fisher liked Goff.

Then, and only then, did Snead go out and try to make the trade happen. As GM he did the negotiating and nuts and bolts stuff with things like that. We know how this went (the mechanics of the trade) because there was a multi-page, very much in depth MMQB article about the trade process with the Titans and how it went.

We don't have to guess about these things. They left a very fat, long record of how they did these things.


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I agree Fisher had final say, but I can definitely see Snead as the initiator of the idea and the trade.


funny How things change around here....last year people were trying to place blame for this move and Goff, now it seems they're trying to figure out who to give credit to?

But you see, you may SEE that, but it in the reality it was actually not possible.

If Snead initiated the trade it would take this form---he would have to talk Fisher into liking the idea and wanting to do it.

He had absolutely no power or authority to make a trade independent of Fisher's okaying it and having input.

In fact Snead has final say NOW and he STILL doesnt' just flat come up with and then implement trades on his own. No GM in his right mind foists an important player on a coach--that way lies madness.

In fact you want to know one famous example of a team trying it that way? Years ago, it was Minnesotta management and ownership that wanted Hershell Walker, not the coaches. And that trade stands out big in NFL history as an example of why you just do not want to do things that way.

As for people jockeying around trying to blame/credit for the trade...don't count me in that group.

For one thing I can positively give a damm who gets credit for it. My thing is being right about the history, period. And we have the history. In spite of some people trying the lame "we will never know for sure" routine, yeah we do, they were very very open about how this process went down. That was easy because it was a huge news item and so there was a lot of scrutiny.

And also my own personal history with this issue was always this---they traded up and I said cool, it got written about all over the place and the Rams spoke out about it and I followed all that, and it went exactly how I assumed it would go. When Goff was struggling I was one of the ones saying he's just green in a bad situation but you can still see why they took him---I never doubted Goff. And this year I was one of the first to say "he IS a franchise qb ALREADY, he's just not a completely developed or matured one yet." I said THAT after the SF game.

So I have no irons in this fire except for this. There is a thick, deep paper trail about how all this happened, and I am just speaking from the position of someone who paid close attention to all that stuff.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/17/2017 10:34AM by zn.