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November 17, 2017 04:25AM
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What do you think was behind the move to trade up for a QB?

You assume somehow that the way the Rams were run, there was some overlord who decided those things and then just foisted it off on the others.

Yet there's a ton of material going back to 2012 that lets us in on how the Rams ran things. And it wasn't like that.

They worked a lot through consensus, though Fisher had official final say and it was his concerns that generally guided things. Oh and btw that's exactly how they work NOW too, with the minor difference that Snead has the final say...which, given the way they do things, is often just a technicality.

From what we can tell from all that they sat down and said we need a qb, what about trading up. I imagine they kicked around other ideas too. It was actually after Fisher and Snead had workouts with both Wentz and Goff that they initiated the process of arranging the trade.

That's what comes out of Ramsland, and I mean perpetually---a vision of things working that way. That's with long interviews and chats with all the principles involved (Demoff, Snead, Fisher) and with embedded reporters at more than one draft and a bunch that loved to talk about their process.

It's alien to the entire process they have to happen the way you seem to imagine it....that for example Fisher walks in one day and says "we're trading up!" and everyone else goes "yes boss." They never did things that way. They do them that way now. When the Watkins trade happened, for example, the way McVay spoke of it, they agreed a long time ago it was a good idea, the personnel people pursued it, one day Snead shows up and says Sean I think we can do this if we want it, and McVay when asked about the long process to set up that trade basically said I don't know they just work on things down in their offices and sometimes they show up with sudden developments. That is, McVay was not on the phone every day arranging that trade (something that went on day in and day out for weeks), but they wouldn't initiate something like that unless they knew the coach had interest and they wouldn't pull the trigger unless there was a consensus for it.

And btw, if it DID happen the way you like to imagine---that is, a non-interfering owner suddenly morphs into an interfering owner and for the worst reasons too ("PR splash"winking smiley---then lord help us because if they DO have an interfering owner making important football decisions for non-football reasons, that path is always a bad one. No "Kroenke exemption" would modify that. Interfering owners are bad, and Kroenke has always shown that he knows that (there are football oriented owners like Jones who are basically the real GMs...an interfering owner is a type who just shows up out of the blue, like Adams with the Titans, and say "I want x" and forces it on the football people. Nothing SK has ever done makes him out to be an Adams. And that's with any sports franchise he owns).
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Who initiated the trade up for QB?

max387November 17, 2017 03:51AM

  wrong question

zn187November 17, 2017 04:25AM

  We see this one totally differently

max138November 17, 2017 04:59AM

  Re: We see this one totally differently

zn167November 17, 2017 05:45AM

  Re: We see this one totally differently

max188November 17, 2017 06:07AM

  Re: wrong question

dzrams109November 17, 2017 11:28AM

  Re: wrong question

Rampage2K-109November 17, 2017 11:31AM

  Re: wrong question

dzrams94November 17, 2017 11:33AM

  Who cares?

Rampage2K-139November 17, 2017 07:31AM

  Re: Who cares?

zn105November 17, 2017 09:25AM

  Re: Who cares?

Rams43128November 17, 2017 09:42AM

  Re: Who cares?

Rampage2K-126November 17, 2017 09:44AM

  Re: Who cares?

zn135November 17, 2017 10:26AM

  Re: Who cares?

Rampage2K-105November 17, 2017 10:32AM

  Re: Who cares?

zn114November 17, 2017 10:50AM

  Re: Who cares?

Rampage2K-97November 17, 2017 11:17AM

  Re: Who cares?

zn197November 17, 2017 11:49AM

  You don't care, except you're patting yourself on the back. LOL!!!

max156November 17, 2017 10:15AM

  Re: You don't care, except you're patting yourself on the back. LOL!!!

Rampage2K-106November 17, 2017 10:29AM

  I agree with that in part

zn109November 17, 2017 12:08PM

  Not what I said

zn108November 17, 2017 11:56AM

  You're misreading...

max109November 17, 2017 12:12PM

  you're misreading

zn119November 17, 2017 12:30PM

  It was me. You're welcome.

RamFanEsq104November 17, 2017 07:32AM

  We will probably never know for sure...

Rams43110November 17, 2017 09:26AM

  Re: We will probably never know for sure...

Rampage2K-107November 17, 2017 10:34AM

  Thats a very reasonable take, IMO.

max108November 17, 2017 10:38AM