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JamesJM
you've stressed this so often, so forcefully... I have to believe there is more to this than simply trying to point out that he was 'green', which most of us know.
Perhaps I'm wrong... but I no longer think you believe he was 'green'.. but instead -- hopelessly, eternally, raw... about at a level I would be if I got a tryout with an NFL team. IOW... a lost cause from the get-go. - JamesJM
Thanks for the chance to clarify. No both statements there are "off," I think.
One is, he wasn't just green. It was more than that. So many people acknowledge he was yeah green but don't really see the full extent of it, so they don't count it as heavily as the evidence strongly says they should. Read the material I provided. His college system itself sets qbs that far behind. The issue is coming from an Air Raid system. I emphasize that precisely to the extent it's underestimated.
No I never said nor believed "lost cause." I was very pro Goff the minute they drafted him. When it came to 2016, I could see his best qualities, the ones that translate from Cal, even in his worst games last year. BUT. A large proportion of what we saw last year was Goff struggling, and thinking instead of playing, because he had that much ground to make up to become a pro qb. I say that both to people who try to claim the only or major issue was coaching
and to the people who claim Goff's play last year demonstrated that he's just not very good.
So you take this especially green qb and put him on the field in an offense that's supposed to be lightening the burden on him by running the ball...but it CAN'T run the ball (and that too was for a lot of reasons). And we get what we saw.
So as much as I like McVay, Kromer, and Olsen...and the improved OL...and the new weapons...and the re-dedicated Gurley...one of the things the Rams are benefiting from now is precisely that he IS NOT a rookie. He went through all the stuff all rookies go through, PLUS the added burden of coming from a college system that not only doesn't prepare you for the pros it positively sets you back when it comes to mastering pro offenses.
I just think that gets underestimated. And by that I mean this--this is my view of it: if one doesn't estimate that as counting A LOT, then yes IMO it is being underestimated.
That's my honest view.
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