August 10, 2017 12:10PM
IMO, it's past time to argue about Dak's advantages in Dallas at this point.

Unless he crashes and burns ala RG3 (and I don't see that in his game), the whole NFL, even including Dallas, and a lot of other draft people underestimated Prescott. And that's ok. Thank goodness the NFL isn't boringly predictable.

Our QB is Goff, and his success or failure is going to depend on him and on the new Ram coaches. It can never be proven, but I think most observers doubt that Jared Goff could have had Dak's season if only he had the Cowboy team and coaches around him.

zn is right. He was just too green. It's not really that debateable. The question is where he goes from here.

McVay says Goff has the "traits" that you look for in an NFL QB. That is careful wording. Having the traits and being able to put it all together not the same thing.

Is Goff driven to succeed? Despite his laid-back off field demeanor, there is evidence and testimony that he is indeed driven, and a hard worker.
Sometimes that isn't enough. Sometime it is, if enough natural talent is there. Between the ears, I mean, since I'm not concerned about his arm.

How good is he at self-evaluation? Is he aware of his own flaws, and can he do anything about them? Part of my problem with the other guy was that I just didn't believe he even knew or wanted to acknowledge the areas where he needed to get better, and thus no improvement. But he started way higher and better than Goff has. Won't go any further on that, just a minor point of comparison.

We're so close now (weeks) from getting new data on whether Jared Goff is on a good trajectory, that to me, Dak Prescott is irrelevant to the conversation.
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  Prisco on Goff/scrimmage

RFIP1636August 10, 2017 12:49AM

  Re: Prisco on Goff/scrimmage

Steve552August 10, 2017 12:54AM

  Can't have it both ways...nm

RFIP433August 10, 2017 02:18AM

  Re: Prisco on Goff/scrimmage

max544August 10, 2017 03:37AM

  What I want to see from Goff in these PS games starting Saturday

RFIP473August 10, 2017 03:48AM

  Re: Prisco on Goff/scrimmage

AlbaNY_Ram543August 10, 2017 04:26AM

  The yin and the yang...

RFIP411August 10, 2017 05:15AM

  Re: and then there's this

AlbaNY_Ram273August 11, 2017 01:48AM

  Re: and then there's this

RFIP307August 11, 2017 02:19AM

  Re: and then there's this

AlbaNY_Ram433August 11, 2017 05:04AM

  Re: and then there's this

zn357August 11, 2017 05:11AM

  In some ways I prefer they bash rather than exude high expectations

RockRam363August 10, 2017 04:45AM

  Re: Prisco on Goff/scrimmage

bigjimram21289August 10, 2017 01:02PM

  the thing about Goff is

zn493August 10, 2017 05:33AM

  I think the PS will be a huge indication

max352August 10, 2017 05:38AM

  Re: I think the PS will be a huge indication

The_Zone456August 10, 2017 06:40AM

  Kinda

max258August 10, 2017 07:24AM

  I think that's fair.

Saguaro299August 10, 2017 07:36AM

  Good summary sag. Nm

stlramz262August 10, 2017 06:18PM

  Remember a few years ago...

Saguaro295August 10, 2017 07:12PM

  Re: the thing about Goff is

Rams43330August 10, 2017 06:30AM

  Its about checking off boxes...

RamFanEsq302August 10, 2017 06:32AM

  Re: Its about checking off boxes...

zn295August 10, 2017 06:53AM

  The "green" part is to be expected...

RamFanEsq361August 10, 2017 07:01AM

  Re: The "green" part is to be expected...

zn304August 10, 2017 07:10AM

  Re: The "green" part is to be expected...

RamFanEsq262August 10, 2017 07:14AM

  Re: the thing about Goff is

LMU93293August 10, 2017 06:40AM

  Re: My take on Goff..........

oldschoolramfan282August 10, 2017 07:02AM

  Re: My take on Goff..........

zn482August 10, 2017 07:13AM

  Re: My take on Goff..........

oldschoolramfan502August 10, 2017 02:54PM

  Ross Tucker on Goff/PS

RFIP572August 10, 2017 09:12AM

  Re: Ross Tucker on Goff/PS

GreatRamNTheSky599August 10, 2017 10:24AM

  Re: Ross Tucker on Goff/PS

RFIP419August 10, 2017 10:26AM

  Re: Ross Tucker on Goff/PS

GreatRamNTheSky520August 10, 2017 10:39AM

  Re: How did those coaches help

Speed_Kills289August 10, 2017 12:33PM

  Re: Dallas was 4-12 the previous year (nm)

Speed_Kills318August 10, 2017 10:30AM

  Dallas was / is a far superior team

GreatRamNTheSky373August 10, 2017 10:37AM

  Re: again they went 4-12 in 2015

Speed_Kills347August 10, 2017 11:09AM

  Excuse me but what year did they lose to the Packers in Green Bay during the playoffs?

GreatRamNTheSky414August 10, 2017 06:44PM

  Re: what is his point?

Speed_Kills358August 10, 2017 10:31AM

  Re: what is his point?

GreatRamNTheSky426August 10, 2017 10:41AM

  Re: yes... but

Speed_Kills316August 10, 2017 11:07AM

  Yep.

Saguaro325August 10, 2017 12:10PM

  Lets analyze what Dak did

GreatRamNTheSky484August 10, 2017 06:42PM

  Tucker's underlying point is valid

max430August 10, 2017 01:48PM

  Re I have no idea what Tucker is saying

Speed_Kills272August 10, 2017 02:03PM

  Tucker was being facetious...

max236August 10, 2017 02:06PM

  Re: Tucker was being facetious...

Steve279August 11, 2017 01:39AM

  No

RFIP436August 11, 2017 02:27AM

  Goff has potential, but

six2stack278August 11, 2017 04:11AM

  But he's not a mess

GreatRamNTheSky276August 10, 2017 06:52PM