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Re: Of the roster which is what has been discussed...

July 31, 2017 03:50PM
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Yes he asked for and got final say...and did so in a system that was in fact, when it came to drafting, going to act collaboratively. But there's no contradiction there. You can have a collaborative process where there's a guy with final say in his back pocket, because someone has to have it (the time the Rams actually worked by votes with Armey, Martz, and Zygmunt was a disaster.)

Here are just some examples of many. All you have to do is search the terms "Fisher" "Rams" and "final say."

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[www.cbssports.com]

Fisher actually has final say over the roster and all transactions --

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[abcnews.go.com]

Los Angeles Rams: Like many teams, the Rams prefer to say that all of their picks are a group consensus, but if it really comes down to it, coach Jeff Fisher has the final say. The Rams gave Fisher a five-year deal worth around $7 million a season in 2012, and with it, they gave him a lot of say in personnel matters. He was already in place when the team hired general manager Les Snead, and the two generally work together on building the roster. -- Nick Wagoner


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[profootballtalk.nbcsports.com]

There can be little doubt that Fisher wanted, and acquired, full control in 2012. After Fisher picked the Rams over the Dolphins, he told Michael Silver (then of Yahoo! Sports) that Fisher wanted to be able to run the show.

“At the end of the day I wanted the ability to have final say, with a General Manager I could build something with,” Fisher said.

Which he should have at his experience level, BUT Bill Belichick is the only HC in football with "full control".

As I understand it, "Full control" and "final say" are different things. "Final say" just refers to personnel---the draft, free agency, the roster. I am not sure of the scope of "full control" but it goes beyond that and involves not just personnel. For example, on contracts, the Rams front office contracts people do not report to the coach or the GM, they report to Kroenke, which makes them separate. "Full control" means the contracts people report to Bellichick--they are under him, not separate.

More on :"final say"

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[football.realgm.com]

The NFL has six head coaches with absolute final say on player personnel decisions in Bill Belichick of the New England Patriots, Mike Shanahan of the Washington Redskins, Sean Payton of the New Orleans Saints, Pete Carroll of the Seattle Seahawks, Chip Kelly of the Philadelphia Eagles and Jeff Fisher of the St. Louis Rams.

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[www.thepigskinreport.com]

Fisher wanted final say over personnel decisions, which is something he earned throughout his coaching days with the Tennessee Titans. Ross would not restructure things within the organization, so they watched Fisher go to St. Louis, leaving them without an A-list head coach for the second time.

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[www.sportingnews.com]

That power is in the hands of general manager Jeff Ireland, whose contract calls for him to have final say on the composition of the roster and on draft choices. Fisher will have that control in St. Louis. The Rams currently don’t have a general manager, after firing Billy Devaney, and Fisher will have a big say in who is hired for the job. But in the end, he'll be the guy calling the shots.


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[www.washingtonpost.com]

Fisher wanted final say over personnel when taking the Rams job in 2012.
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  Gerald Everett and Cooper Kupp

GreatRamNTheSky1304July 31, 2017 06:30AM

  Some other rookies are turning heads, too...

Rams43506July 31, 2017 07:03AM

  Fisher, Fisher, Fisher

FootballGenius497July 31, 2017 07:28AM

  Re: Fisher, Fisher, Fisher

Rams43395July 31, 2017 07:41AM

  Fisher had 8 1st round picks and full control for 5 years...

PaulButcher59342July 31, 2017 08:22AM

  Re: Fisher had 8 1st round picks and full control for 5 years...

FootballGenius354July 31, 2017 09:06AM

  Somebody who should know ...

The_Bad_Guy337July 31, 2017 09:22AM

  Re: Somebody who should know ...

FootballGenius278July 31, 2017 09:25AM

  Because that's the way the press works

The_Bad_Guy321July 31, 2017 09:28AM

  Re: Because that's the way the press works

FootballGenius252July 31, 2017 09:31AM

  thats impossible

PHDram350July 31, 2017 10:39AM

  Re: thats impossible

laram269July 31, 2017 10:45AM

  interesting...

PHDram235July 31, 2017 12:14PM

  Re: Indeed...

laram274July 31, 2017 12:37PM

  what does that tell you?

PHDram284July 31, 2017 01:11PM

  Re: The same as I said previously..

laram322July 31, 2017 01:29PM

  Re: The same as I said previously..

PHDram260July 31, 2017 01:39PM

  Well ...

The_Bad_Guy342July 31, 2017 12:50PM

  Re: Well ...

FootballGenius247July 31, 2017 01:16PM

  Demoff hired Snead, Demoff kept Snead...

PaulButcher59257July 31, 2017 01:50PM

  Re:This has been discussed ad nauseum...

laram236July 31, 2017 02:07PM

  Fisher didn`t ask for full control with the Rams but was just given it?

PaulButcher59371July 31, 2017 02:33PM

  actually yeah Fisher asked for and got final say

zn296July 31, 2017 03:16PM

  Re: Of the roster which is what has been discussed...

laram190July 31, 2017 03:21PM

  Re: Of the roster which is what has been discussed...

zn285July 31, 2017 03:50PM

  Re: Yep agreed...NM

laram288July 31, 2017 04:08PM

  Thanks..I knew I wasn`t going crazy...(NM)

PaulButcher59244July 31, 2017 04:09PM

  Re: Keep reading...

laram214July 31, 2017 04:14PM

  LMAO..Nice try ;)...............NM

PaulButcher59238July 31, 2017 04:16PM

  Re: Which I could say the same...

laram345July 31, 2017 04:34PM

  For your information...

PaulButcher59244July 31, 2017 05:06PM

  Re: Well ...

zn327July 31, 2017 01:55PM

  Hey ...

The_Bad_Guy203July 31, 2017 02:27PM

  Re: Well, My guy

RamsFanSinceLA215August 01, 2017 08:01AM

  Re: Can you define "in control"?...

laram335July 31, 2017 09:30AM

  Fisher was where the buck stopped

The_Bad_Guy189July 31, 2017 12:53PM

  Re: Fisher was where the buck stopped

laram256July 31, 2017 12:57PM

  Exactly (n/m)

The_Bad_Guy325July 31, 2017 12:59PM

  I would say that's true...with minor qualifications

zn237July 31, 2017 02:07PM

  im not sure why this is still debated

PHDram248July 31, 2017 10:33AM

  no

zn255July 31, 2017 02:03PM

  never came down to one person

PHDram205July 31, 2017 02:50PM

  Re: never came down to one person

zn205July 31, 2017 02:57PM

  ranked board

PHDram222July 31, 2017 03:17PM

  Re: ranked board

zn248July 31, 2017 03:55PM

  I'm not sure what your arguing about

PHDram211July 31, 2017 04:45PM

  Re: I'm not sure what your arguing about

zn234July 31, 2017 04:58PM

  Re: Some other rookies are turning heads, too...

max346July 31, 2017 07:33AM

  Re: here we go smh lol nm

Speed_Kills298July 31, 2017 10:24AM

  Re: One thing that should translate well for Everett

merlin400July 31, 2017 07:34AM

  Could be the year of the rookie TE

RFIP268July 31, 2017 09:13AM