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No disagreement here.

July 28, 2017 08:03AM
You're right--there is no clear evidence that McVay sees a high ceiling for Goff. He may well see that!

I am just trying to be careful in distinguishing between what seems to me to be significant indicators and what we don't know. Fact is, McVay has not gushed over Goff at all. That doesn't mean that he isn't quietly gushing. It just means that we haven't heard the kind of praise we have heard concerning other players.

I'm just trying to establish the floor, not of what Goff will be, but of what it is reasonable to suppose that McVay thinks of him. I think it's clear that McVay thinks he will AT LEAST be enough to improve with. That's the bottom of what McVay is most likely thinking.

Now, on the glass half full or half empty thing. There is indeed a divide between the two viewpoints here, and probably most other places. I have written about this and talked about Doomsters and Hopesters.

As for me, emotionally, I tend to be hopeful. But I am also scarred by disappointments and tend to avoid optimism.

When it comes, however, to trying to think clearly, I must confess that I feel uncomfortable with both perspectives. I think both sides claim more than they actually know. In this thread, I see Hopesters expressing what seems to me to be unfounded optimism and I see Doomsters refusing to take seriously the implications of the stacked deck Goff faced last year. I get irritated with both houses, to be honest.

I dunno whether this year's Ram glass has water to the 50% line. It might be above or below that line. But I really don't feel aligned with either word: full or empty. There are so many imponderables with this team that I don't feel comfortable either way.

So, I try to fall back on what we know and to distinguish that from what we only hope for or fear. That's the only sense I can make out of it all.

The season is beginning and we'll see. I think there is some reason to hope but I will not be surprised if it all goes wrong again. And I refuse to bet my emotional state either way.
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  Goff - Can we give this kid a chance!!!

tclahammeer786July 27, 2017 11:30AM

  Re: Goff - Can we give this kid a chance!!!

zn374July 27, 2017 11:41AM

  Re: Goff - Can we give this kid a chance!!!

Rams43386July 27, 2017 11:52AM

  He will have to prove it to me

FootballGenius321July 27, 2017 11:56AM

  Re: He will have to prove it to me

Rams43353July 27, 2017 12:00PM

  Re: He will have to prove it to me

FootballGenius317July 27, 2017 12:03PM

  If anyone is actually concerned, just watch this

rambleon381July 27, 2017 12:50PM

  Re: Goff - Can we give this kid a chance!!!

RamFanInPA287July 27, 2017 03:36PM

  Alll we are sayyyyyying.... is give Goff a channnnnce -nm

Old Goat286July 27, 2017 03:47PM

  Give The Kid A Break

IowaRam325July 27, 2017 03:55PM

  Ah yeah, you are

RFIP296July 27, 2017 03:58PM

  You can ask folks, but It's more than just giving #16 a "chance"

Anonymous User455July 27, 2017 04:32PM

  Nope...he blows.

DaJudge406July 27, 2017 07:15PM

  What's wrong with excuses?

Atlantic Ram276July 27, 2017 08:42PM

  Re: Goff - Can we give this kid a chance!!!

socalmab302July 28, 2017 03:42AM

  He appears to not be the answer

Rams_81304July 28, 2017 04:36AM

  I think everyone is willing to give him a chance...

PaulButcher59257July 28, 2017 05:13AM

  The assessment that matters: McVay's

RFL307July 28, 2017 07:00AM

  Re: The assessment that matters: McVay's

socalmab340July 28, 2017 07:45AM

  No disagreement here.

RFL375July 28, 2017 08:03AM