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Green was not completely "back" in 2000

April 23, 2017 10:38AM
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LesBaker
Green and Warner both played several games with the exact same players.

It's no mystery, and this is certainly not a slam on Green but if Warner played all 16 games in 2000 the Rams would have won more than 10 games and rather than falling into the playoffs due to a fluke Bears win IIRC..............they may have been playing at home during the playoffs rather than playing the Saints on the road. Winning two more games is entirely realistic with Warner playing all year.

Green was very good, but unless people have memory issues Warner was vaporizing offenses and racking up a record setting pace for yards, YPA and very nearly for TD's. It was extraordinary the way that offense destroyed people while getting ZERO help from the defense all game and all year long. They would have made a run at 600 points had he played all year.

I like Trent Green, he is an excellent QB. But without Warner 1999 is a fantastic season for fans, but there would be no SB win. The Bucs would have gone to the big game.

I don't want to be taken as contributing to the completely imaginary idea that people are trying to make Green and Warner equivalent.

BUT just discussing Green as Green, without any need to once again reiterate the completely universally agreed upon idea that Warner was elite and Green was very good (2 different levels)...

...Green was not fully back from the knee in 2000. That was a judgment many people shared at the time. He was not his former self and not the Green he would become in KC either. Given that he still did a credible job and was ALMOST the qb he would be with a great OL and great running game in Kansas City.

So unnecessary comparisons aside, IMO it;s not entirely fair to Green to judge Green AS GREEN on the basis of 2000.

Even given all that, he threw 16 TDs in 5 games to 5 INTs and had a qb rating of 101.8, and that's without Faulk in 2 of those games.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/23/2017 10:40AM by zn.
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  Sad news from twitter Attachments

leafnose1924April 22, 2017 11:01AM

  OUCH. Graphically it is much worse!

stlramz398April 22, 2017 11:06AM

  Absolutely condemning

NewMexicoRam284April 22, 2017 11:13AM

  Re: And We thought 90-99 was long.

den-the-coach375April 22, 2017 11:21AM

  it's been an ugly 25 year stretch

LesBaker360April 22, 2017 11:58AM

  Re: Sad news from twitter

leafnose336April 22, 2017 11:51AM

  Re: Sad news from twitter

Rams43503April 22, 2017 11:56AM

  pretty funny 43.

stlramz235April 22, 2017 01:48PM

  Re: Sad news from twitter

RamsFanSinceLA265April 24, 2017 08:50AM

  Best thing that ever happened to Rams was a Trent Green knee injruy

Blue and Gold384April 22, 2017 01:23PM

  Re: IMO Trent Green would have been very successful as well..

laram258April 22, 2017 01:45PM

  Trent was good

9er8er290April 22, 2017 02:02PM

  Re: Trent was good

stlramz294April 22, 2017 04:08PM

  Good is good Attachments

Blue and Gold459April 22, 2017 05:01PM

  Re: Green was good in KC, what would he have been...

laram463April 22, 2017 05:12PM

  And

RFIP550April 23, 2017 01:50AM

  All these years later ...

The_Bad_Guy307April 23, 2017 04:16AM

  Re: It has absolutely *nothing* to do with Kurt Warner...

laram231April 23, 2017 04:44AM

  What did I write that is so controversial?

The_Bad_Guy317April 23, 2017 05:34AM

  Durability...

moklerman376April 23, 2017 05:58AM

  Re: Durability...

zn373April 23, 2017 06:08AM

  Re: Durability...

moklerman309April 23, 2017 06:59AM

  Re: Durability...

zn243April 23, 2017 07:46AM

  Re: Durability...

moklerman295April 23, 2017 08:35AM

  Re: Durability...

zn273April 23, 2017 08:38AM

  Re: Durability...

moklerman264April 23, 2017 08:55AM

  Re: What did I write that is so controversial?

laram235April 23, 2017 06:07AM

  Re: What did I write that is so controversial?

zn328April 23, 2017 06:31AM

  Comparisons

The_Bad_Guy236April 23, 2017 06:52AM

  Re: Comparisons

zn292April 23, 2017 07:45AM

  There are no absolutes

The_Bad_Guy243April 23, 2017 07:54AM

  Re: There are no absolutes

zn327April 23, 2017 08:14AM

  Touché (n/m)

The_Bad_Guy288April 23, 2017 09:00AM

  That is true... but I agree Warner was a cut above

Blue and Gold211April 23, 2017 08:55AM

  Re: That is true... but I agree Warner was a cut above

moklerman257April 23, 2017 08:59AM

  Re: Yeah and that "not afraid to make mistakes" mentality..

laram235April 23, 2017 09:08AM

  And who do you "blame" for that philosophy?

The_Bad_Guy351April 23, 2017 09:22AM

  Re: Yeah and that "not afraid to make mistakes" mentality..

moklerman356April 23, 2017 09:27AM

  Re: Mismanagement and in-fighting...

laram231April 23, 2017 09:39AM

  Fumbled punts and pick-sixes don't occur with other NFL teams?

The_Bad_Guy354April 23, 2017 10:54AM

  Reluctantly I'll say, briefly...

JamesJM232April 23, 2017 09:51AM

  I disagree it isn't debatable LOL

LesBaker531April 23, 2017 10:15AM

  Warner vs Manziel

wv ram591April 24, 2017 03:36PM

  Re: That is true... but I agree Warner was a cut above

zn283April 23, 2017 09:50AM

  No, I guess I don't

Blue and Gold268April 23, 2017 12:56PM

  Re: Right never mind the defense...nm

laram234April 23, 2017 01:14PM

  Oh sure,

Blue and Gold334April 23, 2017 01:21PM

  who is saying any different?

zn293April 23, 2017 01:19PM

  Re: who is saying any different?

Blue and Gold392April 24, 2017 11:12AM

  and that's minor

zn346April 24, 2017 12:02PM

  sez you

Blue and Gold428April 24, 2017 02:28PM

  Re: and that's minor

Blue and Gold722April 24, 2017 02:31PM

  Re: 38-31 loss to the Colts and Manning...

laram313April 24, 2017 02:44PM

  Did he win?

Blue and Gold201April 24, 2017 02:54PM

  see in this contrast of opinions we differ...

zn312April 24, 2017 03:04PM

  So what?

Blue and Gold336April 24, 2017 03:17PM

  Re: Confirmation bias...

laram433April 24, 2017 03:23PM

  even so

Blue and Gold262April 24, 2017 03:33PM

  Re: even so

laram307April 24, 2017 04:11PM

  Uh

Blue and Gold280April 24, 2017 04:20PM

  All we have to do is look at 2000

LesBaker331April 23, 2017 10:00AM

  Green was not completely "back" in 2000

zn466April 23, 2017 10:38AM

  Re: All we have to do is look at 2000

Blue and Gold225April 23, 2017 12:47PM

  There are degrees of separation

LesBaker281April 23, 2017 04:31AM

  I love them but

ferragamo79320April 22, 2017 04:57PM

  I would MUCH rather be the Rams..........

Paydirt467April 23, 2017 12:09AM

  The conundrum.....

PARAM343April 23, 2017 07:49AM

  Interesting....

stlramz471April 23, 2017 08:01AM