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Re: You were correct...

April 13, 2017 10:00AM
I’m sorry my friend but you were correct when you stated you don’t know the law.

I can guarantee you that the NFL did NOT give any written agreement to St. Louis concerning the Rams as you stated above. That’s not even legally plausible! The NFL does not own the Rams; they cannot enter into a contract for the Rams without express authority. However, even with the remote chance the NFL had authority to contract on the Rams behalf, IF they gave St. Louis any type of written guarantee, that would be a binding contract.

If St. Louis met their conditions of this alleged contract, the Rams would be obligated to perform. The minute the Rams breached on performance, St. Louis would have been in court getting an injunction to enforce the contract.

It’s a 100% certainty that this contract you speak of does not exist. If one did, the Rams wouldn’t have had a chance to load up the moving vans.

St. Louis has other major issues with their lawsuit. The biggest being standing. IMO, a city that loses a team has no standing to sue the NFL or the departed team under a bylaw/relocation guidelines theory because the city was neither a party to the bylaws nor were they a 3rd party beneficiary to them.

The bylaws and the subordinate relocation guidelinesare are essentially a contract between the 32 NFL teams. None parties can’t sue when they are breached. The only exception is if NFL cities can be considered 3rd party beneficiaries. That would require the bylaws and relocation guidelines to have been created with their benefit in mind. Problem is, the bylaws were created to prevent an owner who is blocked from relocating from suing. The purpose for their creation had nothing to do with NFL cities at all. Thus, no standing for St. Louis. Too bad, so sad!

Even if St. Louis had standing, they couldn’t win on fraud. The relocation guidelines were cleverly written. Notice that word “Guidelines.” The title of the document implies that they are not obligated to go by it. Inside the document, they use terms like “factors” to be considered. Basically, the guidelines give the NFL great flexibility and essentially are legal CYA.

It would be near impossible for a city to argue that they reasonably relied on them. The contractor/bid examples are great analogies. You know when you are making the bid, you may not win the contract. As long as the NFL/Rams made it appear that they jumped through the hoops that they created, they will be safe. In the end, the Relocation Committee ruled that St. Louis’ proposal was nice but failed to meet the standard (which by design was fuzzy).

My assessment is that this lawsuit has no merit. I bet the city knows that. It’s a money grab as others have pointed out.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  St. Louis Sues the NFL: 1 Billion

Ram491158April 12, 2017 10:31AM

  Re: St. Louis Sues the NFL: 1 Billion

Rams43446April 12, 2017 10:33AM

  And I'm guessing StL never wants a chance at another NFL team. (nm)

DaJudge406April 12, 2017 11:04AM

  They will have better luck with it than...

jemach351April 13, 2017 03:01AM

  Re: St. Louis Sues the NFL: 1 Billion

Rampage2K-554April 12, 2017 10:34AM

  Re: St. Louis Sues the NFL: 1 Billion

tclahammeer486April 12, 2017 11:56AM

  I guess St. Louis wants to lose even more money.

GreatRamNTheSky561April 12, 2017 12:12PM

  Re: I guess St. Louis wants to lose even more money.

OCRAM85454April 12, 2017 02:13PM

  Re: I guess St. Louis wants to lose even more money.

bigjimram21407April 12, 2017 06:36PM

  What SHOULD be paid to St Louis, if not already......

Ramgator516April 12, 2017 02:28PM

  You know RamGator, that would have been classy

ArizonaRamFan417April 12, 2017 03:11PM

  Business is not done that way

GreatRamNTheSky341April 12, 2017 10:35PM

  I have been self employed almost 15 years. it IS how business is done.

ArizonaRamFan266April 13, 2017 04:28AM

  Huh?

DaJudge360April 13, 2017 05:24AM

  I do not know law but here is where St Louis has point

Rams_81253April 13, 2017 06:03AM

  Useless to keep going round and round.

DaJudge381April 13, 2017 06:54AM

  Amen Brother! NM

GreatRamNTheSky321April 13, 2017 08:17AM

  Re: You were correct...

dzrams491April 13, 2017 10:00AM

  Correctomundo!

GreatRamNTheSky233April 13, 2017 08:16AM

  Fraud element is involved though

Rams_81336April 13, 2017 06:25AM

  Re: I have been self employed almost 15 years. it IS how business is done.

GreatRamNTheSky399April 13, 2017 08:14AM

  Again see Fraud link

Rams_81291April 13, 2017 09:10AM

  This will be problematic

LesBaker334April 12, 2017 02:46PM

  Re: This will be problematic

RamsFanSinceLA389April 12, 2017 02:49PM

  Re: This will be problematic

GreatRamNTheSky280April 12, 2017 10:47PM

  The NFL than needs to abandon relocation guidelines

Rams_81511April 13, 2017 06:15AM

  Re: This will be problematic

RamsFanSinceLA262April 13, 2017 07:04AM

  I think...

jemach293April 13, 2017 04:19AM

  Lawyers never see anything in black and white because there is no money in it!

RamBum352April 13, 2017 07:32AM

  The suit has no legs and will lose badly

GreatRamNTheSky276April 12, 2017 10:45PM

  Another reason why suit may have legs...

jemach282April 13, 2017 03:00AM

  All speculation and opinion and not admisable in Court

GreatRamNTheSky306April 13, 2017 08:09AM

  Re: Another reason why suit may have legs...

David Deacon337April 13, 2017 08:56AM

  In the end St. Louis had the stadium deal in place

Rams_81305April 13, 2017 09:12AM

  You know, this lawsuit might have had legs, except...

ArizonaRamFan400April 12, 2017 03:00PM

  St Louis = Breach of Contract.

Old Goat326April 12, 2017 03:48PM

  I have a different theory

PeoriaRa658April 13, 2017 08:53AM

  Re: I have a different theory

waterfield306April 13, 2017 09:56AM

  Re: That theory is problematic...

dzrams286April 13, 2017 10:04AM